George Orwell Vs. His Fans

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Anyone who Knows Jacksh** about politics knows about George Orwell. George Orwell has plenty of fans who are libertarians or conservatives. Even Conservapedia regards George Orwell as a Conservative thinker. I wish I was making this up.

http://conservapedia.com/George_Orwell (scroll to the bottom)

Even white supremacists like George Orwell. They say that holocaust denial is a “thoughtcrime” in places where it is illegal. I am not sh**ing you. I have proof.

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime

George Orwell was, in fact, a socialist. If there are any right-wingers still reading this, here are two actual quotes by George Orwell that prove just how much he disagreed with you.

“My recent novel [Nineteen Eighty-Four] is NOT intended as an attack on Socialism or on the British Labour Party (of which I am a supporter), but as a show-up of the perversions . . . which have already been partly realized in Communism and Fascism. . . . The scene of the book is laid in Britain in order to emphasize that the English-speaking races are not innately better than anyone else, and that totalitarianism, if not fought against, could triumph anywhere.”

“...I saw a little boy, perhaps ten years old, driving a huge carthorse along a narrow path, whipping it whenever it tried to turn. It struck me that if only such animals became aware of their strength we should have no power over them, and that men exploit animals in much the same way as the rich exploit the proletariat.”

He intended to espouse the virtues of big government and socialism in his book which instead showed why big government and socialism are bad.

No, it doesn't show why big government is bad.

A single party state isn't the same thing as a 'big' government. Ingsoc didn't allow people to disagree with it - the Labour party did.

maybe you don't know what socialism means?

Earlier we had Sand saying I could not agree with as liner of poetry its wtriter disagreed with.

Now a rightist cannot see Orwell is talking fo true because Orwell was socialist?

Truth does not work that way. Sorry. I have known people who assumed you HAVE to disagree with EVERYTHING your political adversary says,

But SOME are not that DUMB. I will agree with the truth wherever it sits.;

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I thought Socialism is collective ownership and management of the means of production.

What is your definition?

ruveyn

well its not an all or nothing proposition or dogma like Stalinism.
Not all socialists are about consolidation of power.
really just the marxists

most are about free association and equal power relationships.
local descion making and the decentralization of power.

like in that horrible place denmark
the most important level of government is the county.

a good number of socialists are anti-statist and reject force completly.

-Jake

Philologos commented this about me.

Quote: Earlier we had Sand saying I could not agree with as liner of poetry its wtriter disagreed with.

For someone claiming to be educated and competent this is a most strange way to demonstrate it.