A message to the followers of Ba'al at Peor

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26 Feb 2011, 2:41 pm

Moses was such a spoilsport, wasn't he?

I'd really like to come and worship with you, some time.



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26 Feb 2011, 2:48 pm

pandabear wrote:
Moses was such a spoilsport, wasn't he?

I'd really like to come and worship with you, some time.



Anybody know is that in Palestinian territory? Do we have coordinates?

Or did all the survivors emigrate to Peoria?



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26 Feb 2011, 5:15 pm

I'm thinking that might be in Sinai somewhere.

Unfortunately, there weren't any survivors, if you believe the Bible.



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26 Feb 2011, 5:44 pm

Total genocide is rare because very difficult. There would be descendants mixed with Jews, maybe Egyptians.

The religion may not be operative.

Still - check out Peoria - it is a weird place. I knew a guy from there taught me how to say the name.

Like Shibboleth.



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27 Feb 2011, 11:28 am

Numbers 25

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When the Israelites were camped at Acacia Valley, the men began to have sexual intercourse with the Moabite women who were there. These women invited them to sacrificial feasts, where the god of Moab was worshiped. The Israelites ate the food and worshiped the god Baal of Peor.


The worship of Baal at Peor seems to have everything that anyone could ever want in a religion.



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27 Feb 2011, 4:28 pm

As Mrs. Beeton would say, first find your Moabite.



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27 Feb 2011, 4:36 pm

לֹא־תִדְרֹ֥שׁ שְׁלֹמָ֖ם וְטֹבָתָ֑ם כָּל־יָמֶ֖יךָ לְעֹולָֽם׃



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27 Feb 2011, 7:15 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
לֹא־תִדְרֹ֥שׁ שְׁלֹמָ֖ם וְטֹבָתָ֑ם כָּל־יָמֶ֖יךָ לְעֹולָֽם׃


This translates to "No - you will be asked Shlmm Otabtam all - of your life to the world:"

What was that again?



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27 Feb 2011, 8:43 pm

pandabear wrote:
Numbers 25

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When the Israelites were camped at Acacia Valley, the men began to have sexual intercourse with the Moabite women who were there. These women invited them to sacrificial feasts, where the god of Moab was worshiped. The Israelites ate the food and worshiped the god Baal of Peor.


The worship of Baal at Peor seems to have everything that anyone could ever want in a religion.


You do realize that that particular pantheon required child sacrifice, right?



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27 Feb 2011, 9:17 pm

Are you sure about that? The Hebrews were treated to sex and barbecue, which was great. The Bible didn't mention the child sacrifice at Peor.



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27 Feb 2011, 9:55 pm

לא תתעב אדמי כי אחיך הוא לא תתעב מצרי כי גר היית בארצו׃



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27 Feb 2011, 10:08 pm

It really helps to shift to Times Roman and increase the points.

Does Josephus [I have skimmed him, but frankly his presentation does not hold me; Herodotus he is not] or anyone else tell us how exactly an Edomite dynasty got to king?



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27 Feb 2011, 11:37 pm

Philologos wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Moses was such a spoilsport, wasn't he?

I'd really like to come and worship with you, some time.



Anybody know is that in Palestinian territory? Do we have coordinates?

Or did all the survivors emigrate to Peoria?


the edomite capital bozrah is in Jordan.

Gen says the the kings of edom are desended from Esav
Joe say the later king was apointed by herod which makes sense Herod was a iduemite.
-Jake



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28 Feb 2011, 8:39 am

My wife says she can be hit the same way by keyboard SHOUTING,but says if it goes on too long it loses force.



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28 Feb 2011, 10:53 am

Philologos wrote:
My wife says she can be hit the same way by keyboard SHOUTING,but says if it goes on too long it loses force.


I am effected by the emotional content of text more than I am by speach.
and I am more likely to mishear someones intentions than to misread them.
I think it is because I am crap at understanding non-verbals.

-Jake



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28 Feb 2011, 11:08 am

If you read Exodus 2 and 3, you'll find that Moses himself married a Midianite girl named Zipporah, and that her father, Jethro, was a Midianite priest. They lived somewhere close to Mount Sinai (which they called the "Holy Mountain"), and were quite amiable, peaceful, pleasant people. You couldn't possibly demonstrate any greater congeniality than by offering one of your daughters as a wife to a stranger.

If you have read the Book of Mormon, then you know that our American Indians are in fact descendents of Hebrews who left Egypt somewhere around the time of Moses. It is possible that some Midianites left with the Hebrews on the same ships, and that they later established their religion in Peoria. However, the Indian Removal Act of 1830 resulted in the forced removal of all American Indians from the state of Illinois. So, you won't find any descendents of worshippers of Baal in Peoria any more.