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23 Feb 2011, 6:20 am

Live within your own means, spend your income on what YOU want, and pay minimal taxation.

Thank you for your time.

Discuss...


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23 Feb 2011, 7:26 am

PJW wrote:
Live within your own means, spend your income on what YOU want, and pay minimal taxation.

Thank you for your time.

Discuss...


This children, is an example of a strawman argument and of bad faith.
faulty thinking and bullying does not an argument make.

1) Strawman PJW fallaciously assumes what offends the "left" and therefore gives a false view of what they believe.

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oooh I hate when people live within their means
-Karl Marx*

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no one should spend any money on anything thay want
only on #4 pencils and penny candy and Harry Potter books.
-Noam Chomsky*

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people should pay more taxes than are required to fulfill the reasonable role of government
muuuhahahahaha
-Eugene Debbs*


* quotes most likely not true as I made them up

2) the stated goal is not to educate, edify or even to dispel the ignorance of "lefties" but to offend them.
Is that the goal of the right? Just to be offensive?
are they just a club of Bullies bent are causing distress to others?

This conversation should be dedicated to the discussion of trolling and why it is not helpfull.
Not one of mindless repeating of the left does it too the left does it too the left does it too.



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23 Feb 2011, 8:04 am

Didn't know you could pick how much "taxation" to pay. At least not legally...


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23 Feb 2011, 9:06 am

Replace income taxes with user fees and poll taxes. Make the beggar pay exactly the same $500 a year fee as the billionaire. Hahahaha! Wohahahaa! (cue the Star Wars Imperial March)... Oh, Scott Walker, what delicious villainy you exhibit. Why, I'm sure he jokes always about how his enemies say he eats kittens.



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23 Feb 2011, 10:40 am

Like you need INSTRUCTIONS?

From earliest memories I have been offensive to Left, to Right, to Intentional Centrists, to students, to faculty, to the administration, to atheists, to Christians, to any other theists.

I don' need no stinking instructions.

To offend any of the above all you have to do is start thinking for yourself and wait. Representatives of the several groups [groups, now - if you want to offend individuals that is different and may involve work] will make appointments to diss you.



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23 Feb 2011, 12:22 pm

How to offend the Left is actually quite easy, simply disagree with them and they go bananas.



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23 Feb 2011, 12:25 pm

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How to offend the Left is actually quite easy, simply disagree with them and they go bananas.


This is the actual method, yes. Heck, if you don't keep in touch with their latest social agendas and say anything that can be perceived as contrary, that's also more than enough. That's the jist of political censorship *cough*, sorry "correctness".



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23 Feb 2011, 2:11 pm

You should re-title this thread 'How to completely miss the point and make the left laugh at you by projecting extreme rightist views on them'

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Not one of mindless repeating of the left does it too the left does it too the left does it too.


Moderate politics are not tolerated here, Jake, as you've said yourself :lol:


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23 Feb 2011, 2:20 pm

xenon13 wrote:
Replace income taxes with user fees and poll taxes. Make the beggar pay exactly the same $500 a year fee as the billionaire. Hahahaha! Wohahahaa! (cue the Star Wars Imperial March)... Oh, Scott Walker, what delicious villainy you exhibit. Why, I'm sure he jokes always about how his enemies say he eats kittens.

Even after completely gutting all social programs, the fee will have to be a bit higher than $500 a year just to support the Department of Offense and it's defense contractors. The lower 30% of earners won't even be able to afford the tax and there will be an even bigger deficit. The empire will fall in a matter of years. Or more likely multi-national corporations will take control over the funding of the military along with 90% of the public sector (roads, police, courts, etc...).



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23 Feb 2011, 3:28 pm

PJW wrote:
Live within your own means, spend your income on what YOU want, and pay minimal taxation.

Thank you for your time.

Discuss...


Easy pleasy topic

If I had only known how easy it was to be a conservative I would have done this years ago.

Actually, I do live within my means, spend my income on what I want and pay minmal taxation. :P


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23 Feb 2011, 4:00 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
How to offend the Left is actually quite easy, simply disagree with them and they go bananas.


This is true.

However, if you'll notice the thread thus far, I'm being belittled for advocating a 'normative' life style. Interesting how those from the Left say that this is normal when worded as it is, but if I threw in the word 'Capitalism' as the best exponent of my simple homespun analogy for human existence here, the world would explode in vitriol never before seen.

Just wait for the contradictions to flow. This is what the Left are best at in the end. Offending themselves because the rational, critical thinking Right can't understand how giving my money to someone else helps me.


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23 Feb 2011, 4:05 pm

sartresue wrote:
PJW wrote:
Live within your own means, spend your income on what YOU want, and pay minimal taxation.

Thank you for your time.

Discuss...


Easy pleasy topic

If I had only known how easy it was to be a conservative I would have done this years ago.

Actually, I do live within my means, spend my income on what I want and pay minmal taxation. :P


You also apparently don't have to ever learn anything and believe in stereotypes that were first concocted in the 80s...the welfare queens of today are corporations, not individuals. Halliburton, not Holly Burton.


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23 Feb 2011, 4:21 pm

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You also apparently don't have to ever learn anything and believe in stereotypes that were first concocted in the 80s...the welfare queens of today are corporations, not individuals. Halliburton, not Holly Burton.


I'm almost convinced many Rightists are trapped in the 1980s


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23 Feb 2011, 4:27 pm

I find that I don't have to try to offend the left, simply not fitting their stereotype of someone who holds some of my opinions seems to work just fine. Even though I have deep and significant differences with the right, they don't seem to have the same problem with my unorthodoxy as the leftist do, I'm not sure what that's about.


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23 Feb 2011, 4:39 pm

How to offend any conservative!


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/not really but since we're going on moronic stereotypes.


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23 Feb 2011, 4:40 pm

Vigilans wrote:
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You also apparently don't have to ever learn anything and believe in stereotypes that were first concocted in the 80s...the welfare queens of today are corporations, not individuals. Halliburton, not Holly Burton.


I'm almost convinced many Rightists are trapped in the 1980s


It'd explain why they worship Reagan when Eisenhower was clearly the best in Republican leadership of the last 100 or so years.


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