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CaptainTrips222
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28 Feb 2011, 11:15 pm

Lets say Ron Paul ran as the conservative candidate (I know, if wishes were horses, but bare with me.) Would you vote for him? If we could turn back the clock and he ran against Obama instead of McCain, I might have voted for him, in spite of my liberal leanings. I like his ideas. If he ran for 2012* would you vote for him?

*It won't happen, but still.



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28 Feb 2011, 11:17 pm

no


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28 Feb 2011, 11:44 pm

I don't think I even have to answer. :roll:

here's a video for you folks who voted for Obama

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-dFVQoCbnE[/youtube]



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28 Feb 2011, 11:54 pm

thread needs a poll, and yes.



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28 Feb 2011, 11:57 pm

Paul is an unwitting tool of islamofascism, and will never receive my vote.



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01 Mar 2011, 12:01 am

georgewbush wrote:
Paul is an unwitting tool of islamofascism, and will never receive my vote.


Dubuya.



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01 Mar 2011, 1:37 am

I wouldn't vote for him. I'm on welfare and he blames me for it and wants to take my money and give it to someone he sees as more meritorious (someone rich). His economic policy is nasty and it doesn't work. If i were an american i'd see no need to register as a Republican and vote for Paul and every need to register as a democrat and vote for Dennis Kucinich.



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01 Mar 2011, 1:41 am

georgewbush wrote:
Paul is an unwitting tool of islamofascism, and will never receive my vote.

Get with the program. Neoconservatism is out of fashion with conservatives these days. Bircherism and far-right Austrian economics is where it's at.



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01 Mar 2011, 1:47 am

jamieboy wrote:
I wouldn't vote for him. I'm on welfare and he blames me for it and wants to take my money and give it to someone he sees as more meritorious (someone rich). His economic policy is nasty and it doesn't work. If i were an american i'd see no need to register as a Republican and vote for Paul and every need to register as a democrat and vote for Dennis Kucinich.


He doesn't support giving your money to anybody, he wants you to keep it as much of it as possible. He is especially against corporate welfare. Unless by "my money" you mean my money. How can you say his economic policy doesn't work? It's never been tried. It's not like our current economic policy has been working so well.



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01 Mar 2011, 2:00 am

Jacoby wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
I wouldn't vote for him. I'm on welfare and he blames me for it and wants to take my money and give it to someone he sees as more meritorious (someone rich). His economic policy is nasty and it doesn't work. If i were an american i'd see no need to register as a Republican and vote for Paul and every need to register as a democrat and vote for Dennis Kucinich.


He doesn't support giving your money to anybody, he wants you to keep it as much of it as possible. He is especially against corporate welfare. Unless by "my money" you mean my money. How can you say his economic policy doesn't work? It's never been tried. It's not like our current economic policy has been working so well.


It was tried under the Dictatorship of General Pinochet in Fascist Chile. The Chicago school ran that economy in person. It was a disaster so bad that you need a Dictator in place to get away with it. Huge retractions in economic growth followed by huge booms to regain parity. Boom, bust, boom bust repeat ad infinitum

And my money is my money. I'm from the UK and you're from the US and you have no legal claim to it and nor does anyone else.



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01 Mar 2011, 2:03 am

Number 1 Son probably would if he chose to vote.



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01 Mar 2011, 2:12 am

jamieboy wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
I wouldn't vote for him. I'm on welfare and he blames me for it and wants to take my money and give it to someone he sees as more meritorious (someone rich). His economic policy is nasty and it doesn't work. If i were an american i'd see no need to register as a Republican and vote for Paul and every need to register as a democrat and vote for Dennis Kucinich.


He doesn't support giving your money to anybody, he wants you to keep it as much of it as possible. He is especially against corporate welfare. Unless by "my money" you mean my money. How can you say his economic policy doesn't work? It's never been tried. It's not like our current economic policy has been working so well.


It was tried under the Dictatorship of General Pinochet in Fascist Chile. The Chicago school ran that economy in person. It was a disaster so bad that you need a Dictator in place to get away with it. Huge retractions in economic growth followed by huge booms to regain parity. Boom, bust, boom bust repeat ad infinitum

And my money is my money. I'm from the UK and your from the US and you have no legal claim to it and nor does anyone else.


Chicago school(monetarism) is not the same as Austrian school.



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01 Mar 2011, 2:19 am

Jacoby wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
I wouldn't vote for him. I'm on welfare and he blames me for it and wants to take my money and give it to someone he sees as more meritorious (someone rich). His economic policy is nasty and it doesn't work. If i were an american i'd see no need to register as a Republican and vote for Paul and every need to register as a democrat and vote for Dennis Kucinich.


He doesn't support giving your money to anybody, he wants you to keep it as much of it as possible. He is especially against corporate welfare. Unless by "my money" you mean my money. How can you say his economic policy doesn't work? It's never been tried. It's not like our current economic policy has been working so well.


It was tried under the Dictatorship of General Pinochet in Fascist Chile. The Chicago school ran that economy in person. It was a disaster so bad that you need a Dictator in place to get away with it. Huge retractions in economic growth followed by huge booms to regain parity. Boom, bust, boom bust repeat ad infinitum

And my money is my money. I'm from the UK and your from the US and you have no legal claim to it and nor does anyone else.


Chicago school(monetarism) is not the same as Austrian school.


Why do you believe reducing most social spending would benefit those in receipt of it? Aren't you really saying that someone born to a postman has the same life chances as one of the Bushes or Kennedys and that nothing should be done to address the natural disparity of opportunity that is inherent in the market system?



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01 Mar 2011, 4:11 am

a vote for that man is a vote to screw the working class. the america middle class is too busy sucking up to the upper class to pay any heed to the concerns of the working class, whose very existence they only grudgingly acknowledge when they're in need for a nurses' aide for an ailing family member, or for somebody to fix their car, or for some other worker for some other job commonly considered disposable this side of the pond.



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01 Mar 2011, 5:03 am

Yea, Obama is really helping out the working class with his wars and bailouts. I can see why you would prefer him.

Oh wait, no I can't.



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01 Mar 2011, 6:51 am

Jacoby wrote:
Yea, Obama is really helping out the working class with his wars and bailouts. I can see why you would prefer him.

Oh wait, no I can't.


Obama is not as actively hostile to the Working Class as Paul is. But i'd rather have someone who believes in genuine redistribution such as Kucinich or Sanders. If Paul could moderate his Economic Policy somewhat then he might get some more votes but he won't as he genuinely believes he's right. I admire him for sticking to his principles but i'd never vote for him.