Is Jesus Christ the only tollgate to heaven?

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01 Mar 2011, 12:09 pm

Is Jesus Christ the only door to heaven? If he is, this would mean that Moses, Isaiah the Prophet, Abraham, and Elijah never made it to heaven since they were all born and died years before Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem, Israel.

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A gate barring passage to a road, tunnel, or bridge until a toll is collected. 2. A tollbooth equipped with a gate. tollgate ... www.thefreedictionary.com/tollgate (Google)

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02 Mar 2011, 5:27 am

from reading the book "you cannot die" by dr. ian stevenson, i got the impression that heaven is not restricted to certain tollbooths but that each individual goes through their own tunnel or "valley of the shadow of death" to get wherever they are bound, generally [but not in every single case] colored by their own cultural milieu.



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02 Mar 2011, 7:03 am

Yeah, if. I can't answer.

Why do you only ask questions people can't answer?

You'd be better off scrying an aethyr.


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02 Mar 2011, 11:36 am

pgd wrote:
Is Jesus Christ the only door to heaven? If he is, this would mean that Moses, Isaiah the Prophet, Abraham, and Elijah never made it to heaven since they were all born and died years before Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem, Israel.

tollgate - definition of tollgate

A gate barring passage to a road, tunnel, or bridge until a toll is collected. 2. A tollbooth equipped with a gate. tollgate ... www.thefreedictionary.com/tollgate (Google)

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Is PGD a bot? topic

This question might be easier to answer. :lol:


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02 Mar 2011, 8:43 pm

And what about all those people who died without knowledge of christ? Are they automatically damned? And what happened to Ghandi? The Dalai Lama? Something tells me their not burning in hell. Depends on your faith and interpretation. Personally i think their in heaven where they should be.


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02 Mar 2011, 11:01 pm

If God exists, then who are we to judge God? God is the Judge and He's also willing to be our defense if we let him. God is the King of everything, not everybody's slave.



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02 Mar 2011, 11:05 pm

pgd wrote:
Is Jesus Christ the only door to heaven? If he is, this would mean that Moses, Isaiah the Prophet, Abraham, and Elijah never made it to heaven since they were all born and died years before Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem, Israel.



They died before Jesus was born, he died so they would be covered. He took the sins of those who came before him on him with his death, thereby allowing the virtuous of antiquity free judgement before entering Heaven.

As to the rest, well, religions will debate what they will. It's more what you believe and the manner in which you live your life that counts.


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