wish I did believe in God or gods

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I was talking with my sister the other day (same conversation that I mentioned before), and I told her, maybe you just die, and you vanish.

She said, "No wonder you have no purpose in your life".

I'm just rambling.

But, I felt down today about wordly things.... I shared the public bus with some young women who were talking of some girl they knew show f*****d 3 guys in two days. I may not be a Christian, but I don't like that sort of lifestyle either.

But the apparent lack of purpose, I believe, is that schizoaffective disorder, OCD, probably ADD, and almost certainly Asperger's. Still need to get rid of the ADD symptoms, then I think it will look like I have purpose.

Get yourself a purpose. It is up to you.

ruveyn

Help is available.

You will find a lot if you don't look too hard to recognize it.

I'm obsessive-compulsive and have aspergers and don't feel life is meaningless. I don't think you should blame any condition some quack not bright enough to make it in an actual field of medicine says you have for your feelings.

(of course I'm also religious so I may be a bad example)

why exactly, don't you believe in God, if you don't mind my asking?

Perhaps our purpose is to keep our species alive until we evolve to a state of immortality. Not that I'm saying we will get that far..

Well, the illnesses/syndromes have made it difficult to find a purpose. I can say I hvae a purpose, the the illnesses/syndromes get in the way.

something I emailed to someone:

Personlly, one of the things I had long ago was about all the races/cultures that had no way at all of hearing of Judais, then Chrisinity. Yes, we can make explanations, or what I call excuses, about God's grand plan, but it sounds to me that someone back in Israel's past just made it up. Maybe thta's what you were driveing at in your message about the possiblity of other cultures.

Then there's the thing of evidence of God besides the Bible. People thought (and some still do) that the earth was created in 6 days about 6,000 years ago. Well, empirical evidence doesn't show that through. So little evidence for God there. Then there's a supposed thing to for God to help his people, but to sometimes say no, sometimes say later it will be fulfilled, and sometimes give a yes right away. Well, this doens't like an evidence for any god to me. There are circumstances, sometimes fairly usual, sometimes unusual, for way things ended up as they did. (I often think, people all ofver the place family prayed for me for years, abut it took a bad judgment by a doctor and a lung abscess to put me in the hospital, and my saying, once off the meds, that I did not think they were good for me. Fortunately, we got a med for the schizophrenia or psychotic part of the schizoaffective disorder. This does not sound like a grand plan to me. My borther says it may have been delayed because of a sin [which I won't go into], but the illness started before the said sin. no sense to me).

And, they say God sense good and evil on the rightioius and the wicked. That proves nothing. That's just the way things happen to end up. You don't need a god for that to happen.

There was one more thing I was going to add here, but my brain just stopped

Here is one of those threads that reaffirms my view that while I do not have a personal belief in a supernatural deity, I have a strong personal belief in the value of faith for those who do have such a belief.

It is all to easy for those of us who have been rejected by congregations, or feel themselves alienated by doctrinal interference in public policy, to reject the entire notion of religion along with their political meddling. It is perfectly natural that those who have suffered abuse at the hands of the clergy (and those who are repelled by that behaviour) will view those in clerical office with suspicion or hosility ever after.

For what it's worth, I would say that your life has a very clear and well articulated purpose. You are taking control of your life away from the symptoms that are impeding you. Getting "rid of the ADD symptoms," is a purpose in and of itself. And when you have wrested control of your life from those, you will move on to a new purpose.

There are actually many verses in the Bible that specifically say that God has a way to judge those who never hear the word: they are not condemned by default. They are scattered all over the place and vary in how specifically they adress this issue, so I can't give you a good example off the top of my head, but they are definately in there.



You're thinking of God in too scientific of terms. If you want evidence of God, philosophy and logic is the way to go. I'll explain here in a sec, but first, the origional Hebrew version of Gensis says that God created the world in seven Yoms, which can refer to a day, but more acurately translates to "long period of time". This makes sense, as what is a "day" before God creates The Sun, Moon, Rotation of the earth, and indeed, even light and dark?

as for philisophical evidence of God, consider the following: We know that matter and energy do not burst into existence, thus are faced with the question: what created the physical universe? Contrary to popular belief, The big bang theory doesn't answer this question: It explaines the the expansion of the universe: not it's creation. After all, in order to explode, the universe must already exist. Science is limited to the physical realm, and thus any awnser it can ever find will be physical, begging the question "where did that physical thing come from?" The only way to break this chain of origin questions would be a non-physical primal source of all creation. This would be God. (saying that the universe has always existed would be pantheism.)

Your purpose in life is whatever you decide to do with it, you make your own purpose you forge your own Destiny in life

The 'after-life' is your impact on people's lives. Immortality is being remembered for the good things you've done (or the bad). Even if you only become a 'family legend'.

Exactly. This is all there is.

Glad to see someone agrees with me i have had entire arguments with people(not on here as far as i remember) that our lives are predestined and my argument is the Meaning of Life is nothing for the whole the Meaning of Life is INDIVIDUAL to everyone your meaning is your purpose or as i said earlier what you do with your life

To me, God gave me life, I live it.

Simple, really. Your purpose, well, depends on how old you are, I suppose. When I was six I knew exactly what I wanted to do with my life. By the age of nineteen I had tried everything else, mostly things people told me I should do, and when I had nothing else, I went with what I wanted.

The trick to purpose in life, I suppose, is not to get too caught up in finding it. Often the simplest thing, the thing that comes most naturally, the thing that little voice in the back of your head tells you is true, is often true. With me, writing.

As to creationism, well, there are several well-formed philosophical arguments that seven-day creationism, itself a philosophical construct, is too advance to have been formed in 1250BC Greece, which is the story from whence Christianity derives its creation.

The universe came from nothing, and was made something, the atheist view, is logically invalid. Thus, no matter the way you look at it, it came from somewhere. The question for all of us, alive and in the universe, is where we take the world.

Answer that question for yourself and you will have found your purpose.

As to that girl, you don't have to believe in God to find her actions, I'll be lenient, and say abhorrent. Neither, I suppose, do you need to be an atheist to do it.

As I said at the outset, your life is yours. You have to live it. It's not directed by God, only gifted to you for your own purpose.

We should work out the purpose of this object one day, but for now why don't we concentrate on making it indestructible?

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The idea of purpose is a large topic and it goes well beyond the idea of a person joining a certain non-profit religion and then proclaiming they have purpose (of converting everyone else in the world to the religion they subscribe to).

Purpose - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Purpose is a result, end, mean, aim, or goal of an action intentionally undertaken, or of an object being brought into use or existence, whether or not the ...
In human life - Teleology - Non-philosophers' views - See also
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purpose - Cached - Similar (Google)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Purpose_Driven_Life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pilgrim's_Progress

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statement_of_purpose

Known neurological challenges such as the many epilepsies, the four ADHDs, etc., can have noticeable impacts on the idea of purpose.

Consciousness - Purpose - Sustained Attention / Sustained Memory

Staying on task vs Drifting off task - http://www.values.com/ - Annual, written calendar

Tensu wrote:

"There are actually many verses in the Bible that specifically say that God has a way to judge those who never hear the word: they are not condemned by default. They are scattered all over the place and vary in how specifically they adress this issue, so I can't give you a good example off the top of my head, but they are definately in there. "


My question: Where?