5/21/11

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http://ebiblefellowship.com/may21/

They're predicting the second coming or the end of days on May 21st, 2011.

When May 22nd comes along, I predict one of two things will happen:

One - people will lose faith

Two - the mathematical prophet will recant his findings citing bad math and make another prediction. This will make the wayward followers come back.

one thing though, the creation of the earth occurred 11,013 BC. Poor dinosaurs never existed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Paleolithic

... and I will begin my 62nd year of life on this earth.

May 21 is the anniversary of my birth!

wait, you're 60 now and in a couple of months, you'll be 62?

No, I will begin my 62nd year on May 22nd!

Point: If the world is going to end then, we all need to be out planting new flowers at the time.

kxmode, please don't spam me.

When the prediction fails, I have an idea of what will happen.

I'm not supporting the prediction--the "math" prophet or whatever you want to call him has already made a failed prediction. The Bible defines failed predictions as the mark of a false prophet. So we can already know this guy is fake.

But one little thing about Bible prophecy: Most judgment prophecies I've seen recorded in the Bible are conditional. The formula is roughly this:

1) The Lord says "You have greatly sinned. I will destroy you and your family and completely wipe you off the face of the earth."
2') The people affected by the prophecy ignore the prophecy.
3') God fulfills the prophecy
2") The people repent of their sins, beg God's mercy, and change their ways.
3") God shows mercy and chooses NOT to fulfill the prophecy.

If God chooses mercy instead of vengeance, it doesn't mean that the unfulfilled prophecy is a failure and that the prophet is a false prophet. It just means that God will relent from promised destruction IF sinners will turn from their sin and become His children. That's part of the conditional nature of Biblical prophecy.

The prophecies in Daniel and Revelations specifically deal with the end of the world. We won't fully understand those events until they actually happen, and we know that the end is near in the sense that it is inevitable. There's no turning back on this one. However, there are no clear indications that Jesus is returning or has already returned nor that the world is ending any more than it has been for the last few thousand years. You'll know it when it happens. But until then it's dangerous to make specific predictions about when exactly that will be.

What will happen on May 22, assuming the Lord really DOESN'T return on or before the previous day, is the "prophet" will get all his believers together and collectively worship and praise God because the work THEY did on their little caravan and on the internet turned just enough people to God that God decided to postpone the end for just a little while longer. Why? The prophecy is conditional.

Revelation does not indicate the end is a conditional prophecy. It describes it as a certainty. So making a prediction that things WILL happen on any given day is in error because "no one knows..." If this prophecy fails, and I believe that it WILL fail, the preacher in question will just go on deceiving his followers because he will have led them to believe that they have staved off the return of Christ and God's vengeance for just a little while longer. He might say, "Oh, God has shown us mercy THIS time. Let's see what happens next year..." or some such.

That's MY "prophecy." Any takers? I say "stickie" this thread until May 23--you know, "just in case."

pfft REAL prophets predict doomsday to happen a couple of decades after their max. expected life expectancy date is crossed.

An asteroid will smash the earth into pieces in 2060 ... I'll only see it if I live to be 82.... and by then people will either forget I said that garbage and profited from it or I will be enjoying comfortable dementia and not give a crap.

Finally! I've been waiting for this since I read Left Behind

You fowl heretic!
We all know that the world began in 4004 BC!
Thats according to Bishop Usher.

And when I added up the supposed time spans they give in the appendix of my Bible for each book in the Bible it yields the similiar date of 4013 BC.

I don't recommend trying to find a Biblical "age of the world" that way. We don't know if those time spans really are accurate. We already know that genealogies often skip generations, giving a "highlight reel" rather than the actual REAL timeline. I'd say the kingly period chronology is the best there is in the Bible. Beyond that, you have no real way of knowing for sure. Genesis could have happened tens of thousands of years ago, maybe even longer than that. Biblical chronologies don't pay much attention to "gaps" because of the lack of information about those gaps. Making the jump from Gen. 1:1 to Gen. 1:2 is one such example. The days of creation are also examples. The pre-flood genealogies and, to a degree, even the Noah genealogies are problematic. The Bible is not at all concerned with the passage of time. If you read, for example, Judges or one of the books of the kings, it seems people were born and just two hours later they're having sons and daughters and dying the very next day. Saul doesn't seem to have had a very long reign, and he seems to have been a terrible king. But then again he reigned 40 years. I mean, that's like having an American president serve 10 terms. It's a long time. But the Bible doesn't expend a lot of ink making you aware of that. Coming up with dates in the Bible for certain things can get really weird here--and certain kings were actually co-regent, making Biblical chronology a little bit more complicated to study.

In that case, I should stop paying my mortgage and buy some really fun stuff before May!

When May 22 comes the faithful will reinterpret their reinterpretations and recalculate the end of the world.

ruveyn

However, this particular "prophet" doesn't believe in God's mercy. He claims that not only will the world end that day, but that one particular bit of Revelation is to be interpreted in the strictest way possible - that only 144,000 people will be saved, that their names were selected before the beginning of time, and that there is nothing that can be done to change any of that. (Which causes one to wonder why they bother going around preaching to people about it...) In his view, it doesn't matter what kind of life you've lived, nor whether you have accepted Christ as your Savior - if you weren't selected before the Big Guy turned on the lights, you're going to Hell. Enjoy the ride - I'm going to spend my time figuring out exactly how many of us can fit into a handbasket...

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However, this particular "prophet" doesn't believe in God's mercy. He claims that not only will the world end that day, but that one particular bit of Revelation is to be interpreted in the strictest way possible - that only 144,000 people will be saved, that their names were selected before the beginning of time, and that there is nothing that can be done to change any of that. (Which causes one to wonder why they bother going around preaching to people about it...) In his view, it doesn't matter what kind of life you've lived, nor whether you have accepted Christ as your Savior - [/quote]

One of the less fortunate happening was the inclusion of the Book of Revelation in the canon of holy books. Revelation should have been shot out of a cannon, not included in canon.

On balance religion has been a misery for the human race. It is the grounds for people doing evil violence against other people. If I were more observant I would conclude that religion was not the Will of God but the Work of the Devil.

It would not take much to make being human a happier affair. All that is required is that we be just to each other. We don't even have to love each other. All we have to do is be fair and reasonable.

ruveyn

I always loved Douglas Adams' synopsis of Christianity, in the prologue to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - "And then, one Thursday, about two thousand years after a man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be if people were nice to each other for a change..."

Oh God, not this again. These kinds of groups have been making predictions about the end of the world since the early '70s. Some of these groups sometimes even convince people to dispossess themselves of their assets as well. Whatever you do, just don't drink the koolaid.