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26 Mar 2011, 4:00 pm

Sustained Quantum Coherence and Entanglement in the Avian Compass

Authors: Erik Gauger, Elisabeth Rieper, John J. L. Morton, Simon C. Benjamin, Vlatko Vedral

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In artificial systems, quantum superposition and entanglement typically decay rapidly unless cryogenic temperatures are used. Could life have evolved to exploit such delicate phenomena? Certain migratory birds have the ability to sense very subtle variations in Earth's magnetic field. Here we apply quantum information theory and the widely accepted "radical pair" model to analyze recent experimental observations of the avian compass. We find that superposition and entanglement are sustained in this living system for at least tens of microseconds, exceeding the durations achieved in the best comparable man-made molecular systems. This conclusion is starkly at variance with the view that life is too "warm and wet" for such quantum phenomena to endure.


Link: http://arxiv.org/abs/0906.3725



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26 Mar 2011, 4:01 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Sustained Quantum Coherence and Entanglement in the Avian Compass

Authors: Erik Gauger, Elisabeth Rieper, John J. L. Morton, Simon C. Benjamin, Vlatko Vedral

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In artificial systems, quantum superposition and entanglement typically decay rapidly unless cryogenic temperatures are used. Could life have evolved to exploit such delicate phenomena? Certain migratory birds have the ability to sense very subtle variations in Earth's magnetic field. Here we apply quantum information theory and the widely accepted "radical pair" model to analyze recent experimental observations of the avian compass. We find that superposition and entanglement are sustained in this living system for at least tens of microseconds, exceeding the durations achieved in the best comparable man-made molecular systems. This conclusion is starkly at variance with the view that life is too "warm and wet" for such quantum phenomena to endure.


Link: http://arxiv.org/abs/0906.3725


That stability of atoms is a quantum phenomenon.

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26 Mar 2011, 4:06 pm

ruveyn wrote:
That stability of atoms is a quantum phenomenon.

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On the bright side though, if the stability of atoms were a quantum phenomenon that couldn't be demonstrated without extreme conditions then nobody would know it.



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26 Mar 2011, 4:08 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
That stability of atoms is a quantum phenomenon.

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On the bright side though, if the stability of atoms were a quantum phenomenon that couldn't be demonstrated without extreme conditions then nobody would know it.


There is no "if" about it. If atoms operated according to classical electrodynamics they would last about 10^-11 seconds.

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26 Mar 2011, 4:09 pm

It's probability amplitudes all the way down. If one thinks this is counter-intuitive, it's one's intuitions which are wrong.

ETA: http://lesswrong.com/lw/pc/quantum_explanations/

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It is always best to think of reality as perfectly normal. Since the beginning, not one unusual thing has ever happened.

The goal is to become completely at home in a quantum universe. Like a native. Because, in fact, that is where you live.


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26 Mar 2011, 4:35 pm

ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
That stability of atoms is a quantum phenomenon.

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On the bright side though, if the stability of atoms were a quantum phenomenon that couldn't be demonstrated without extreme conditions then nobody would know it.


There is no "if" about it. If atoms operated according to classical electrodynamics they would last about 10^-11 seconds.

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Yes, and with the nuclei being unstable and breaking up like that, it would release a fairly tremendous amount of energy. Quite a bright side, yes? If a means were developed to destabilize the nuclei of normal matter (already within the valley of stable nuclei) in quick order, it would make quite a disruptor.



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26 Mar 2011, 4:37 pm

ZeroGravitas wrote:
It's probability amplitudes all the way down. If one thinks this is counter-intuitive, it's one's intuitions which are wrong.


Proving that "common sense" is a poor guide in matters scientific.

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26 Mar 2011, 4:51 pm

According to one study long lived quantum phenomena can be observed in photosynthesis:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 131356.htm


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