Racial Identity in Politics
jamieboy wrote:
"]BS. No one should be proud of something just because they're born to it.
So you have no pride in your own family?
jamieboy wrote:
And something isn't inherantly a good thing just because it's a part of your own culture or heritage. My heritage? Imperialism!
It's you who chooses to accept yourself as British rather than the less offensive liitle Englander.
NationalSocialist wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
"]BS. No one should be proud of something just because they're born to it.
So you have no pride in your own family?
jamieboy wrote:
And something isn't inherantly a good thing just because it's a part of your own culture or heritage. My heritage? Imperialism!
It's you who chooses to accept yourself as British rather than the less offensive liitle Englander.
I myself support england leaving the United Kingdom.
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jamieboy wrote:
Which war are you talking about? If it's about Iraq then at least half of the Labour MP's voted against it, twenty tories voted against it and all the liberals voted against it.
Also while we're on Iraq. I'd be interested in your opinion of Saddam Hussein and his regime...
Also while we're on Iraq. I'd be interested in your opinion of Saddam Hussein and his regime...
All three parties supported the Iraq war, isn't your democracy great?
Saddam? Well judging by the state of that pile of rubble after the glorious intervention of imperialist Britain and the USA where now not only do they have to put up with foreign miltary rule now the Kurds, Sunni's and Shia's are totally uncontrollable, clearly they needed a strong Iraqi dictator and no doubt the majority of Iraq would agree.
NationalSocialist wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
Which war are you talking about? If it's about Iraq then at least half of the Labour MP's voted against it, twenty tories voted against it and all the liberals voted against it.
Also while we're on Iraq. I'd be interested in your opinion of Saddam Hussein and his regime...
Also while we're on Iraq. I'd be interested in your opinion of Saddam Hussein and his regime...
All three parties supported the Iraq war, isn't your democracy great?
Saddam? Well judging by the state of that pile of rubble after the glorious intervention of imperialist Britain and the USA where now not only do they have to put up with foreign miltary rule now the Kurds, Sunni's and Shia's are totally uncontrollable, clearly they needed a strong Iraqi dictator and no doubt the majority of Iraq would agree.
I've just been reading about the al anfal campaign today actually. I'm pretty f*****g positive that Kurds don't want the genocidal monster who gassed them back at all. How about a homeland for the Kurds? Kurdish separatism is something i'm entirely in favour of. Regrettably your hero Saddam managed to kill all Iraq's Socialists whilst at same time he was being backed by yr pals in Washington to run a war against Iran. Today in Iraq we have a mixture of Baathists and Iran style theocrats vying for power. You support both of these death cults so you must be pretty happy. I feel for Iraq because it's a bloodbath and a complete f*****g bloodbath. It was a bloodbath under your hero saddam, it was a bloodbath during the sanctions and no fly zone and its been a bloodbath since the invasion. That's what happens to you when your sat on one of the worlds largest oil reserves.
My position prior to war was an anti war and anti saddam one. I think we could have eventually got rid of him via peaceful means just as the Egyptians have gotten ridden of mubarak. In fact the Arab spring strengthens the hand of the anti-war anti tyranny camp quite well i think.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal_Campaign
jamieboy wrote:
I think we could have eventually got rid of him via peaceful means just as the Egyptians have gotten ridden of mubarak. In fact the Arab spring strengthens the hand of the anti-war anti tyranny camp quite well i think.
I agree. Iraq would almost certainly have been one of those nations in the ME right now working to get out of the 20th century-style tyranny
I also agree with you on Kurdistan. They have been fighting for a homeland for a long time, since at least the time of Alexander the Kurds have been an occupied people.
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NationalSocialist wrote:
Which one? Is it the well over 1 million which have died in the holocaust caused by your ilk in Iraq?
Are you counting everyone that died from heart disease, Alzheimer's and car accidents too?
Your numbers are exaggerated by almost 10 fold, the real numbers include dead terrorists, and the terrorists killed civilians too.
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John_Browning wrote:
NationalSocialist wrote:
Which one? Is it the well over 1 million which have died in the holocaust caused by your ilk in Iraq?
Are you counting everyone that died from heart disease, Alzheimer's and car accidents too?
Your numbers are exaggerated by almost 10 fold, the real numbers include dead terrorists, and the terrorists killed civilians too.
This is how counting holocaust death totals always work, I don't see why I should change this practice.
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jamieboy wrote:
Holocaust denial is a bit strong for me. Can't we have him thrown in jail like David Irving? Mods?
In the U.S. denial (of anything) is not an actionable thing. First Amendment.
ruveyn
I was half kidding. I believe in more or less complete freedom of speech and i don't believe in banning political parties either. Good idea to have a mass counter demonstration if any nazis are marching through your town too.
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jamieboy wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
Holocaust denial is a bit strong for me. Can't we have him thrown in jail like David Irving? Mods?
In the U.S. denial (of anything) is not an actionable thing. First Amendment.
ruveyn
I was half kidding. I believe in more or less complete freedom of speech and i don't believe in banning political parties either. Good idea to have a mass counter demonstration if any nazis are marching through your town too.
How about US Army 1st Infantry Division and perhaps a few columns of T-34s?
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
Holocaust denial is a bit strong for me. Can't we have him thrown in jail like David Irving? Mods?
In the U.S. denial (of anything) is not an actionable thing. First Amendment.
ruveyn
I was half kidding. I believe in more or less complete freedom of speech and i don't believe in banning political parties either. Good idea to have a mass counter demonstration if any nazis are marching through your town too.
How about US Army 1st Infantry Division and perhaps a few columns of T-34s?
I wouldn't shed any tears if they got dragged under the wheels of a T34 either, lets be honest about it! I'll leave it to the ACLU to protect their first amendment rights i think.
jamieboy wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
Holocaust denial is a bit strong for me. Can't we have him thrown in jail like David Irving? Mods?
In the U.S. denial (of anything) is not an actionable thing. First Amendment.
ruveyn
I was half kidding. I believe in more or less complete freedom of speech and i don't believe in banning political parties either. Good idea to have a mass counter demonstration if any nazis are marching through your town too.
How about US Army 1st Infantry Division and perhaps a few columns of T-34s?
I wouldn't shed any tears if they got dragged under the wheels of a T34 either, lets be honest about it! I'll leave it to the ACLU to protect their first amendment rights i think.
Problem is once you create such a line like that, it tends to get moved until you suddenly find that all free speech will be met with tanks and infantry.
Inuyasha wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
Holocaust denial is a bit strong for me. Can't we have him thrown in jail like David Irving? Mods?
In the U.S. denial (of anything) is not an actionable thing. First Amendment.
ruveyn
I was half kidding. I believe in more or less complete freedom of speech and i don't believe in banning political parties either. Good idea to have a mass counter demonstration if any nazis are marching through your town too.
How about US Army 1st Infantry Division and perhaps a few columns of T-34s?
I wouldn't shed any tears if they got dragged under the wheels of a T34 either, lets be honest about it! I'll leave it to the ACLU to protect their first amendment rights i think.
Problem is once you create such a line like that, it tends to get moved until you suddenly find that all free speech will be met with tanks and infantry.
Aye, you're right. Wait till they've got tanks until you meet them with tanks. (no sarcasm)
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Inuyasha wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
Holocaust denial is a bit strong for me. Can't we have him thrown in jail like David Irving? Mods?
In the U.S. denial (of anything) is not an actionable thing. First Amendment.
ruveyn
I was half kidding. I believe in more or less complete freedom of speech and i don't believe in banning political parties either. Good idea to have a mass counter demonstration if any nazis are marching through your town too.
How about US Army 1st Infantry Division and perhaps a few columns of T-34s?
I wouldn't shed any tears if they got dragged under the wheels of a T34 either, lets be honest about it! I'll leave it to the ACLU to protect their first amendment rights i think.
Problem is once you create such a line like that, it tends to get moved until you suddenly find that all free speech will be met with tanks and infantry.
If you didn't notice, the 1st Infantry Division and T-34 tanks have historical significance to the European theatre of WWII.
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