Tax the Super Rich now or face a revolution

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29 Mar 2011, 4:06 pm

Yes, tax the Super Rich. Tax them now. Before the other 99% rise up, trigger a new American Revolution, a meltdown and the Great Depression 2.

Revolutions build over long periods — to critical mass, a flash point. Then they ignite suddenly, unpredictably. Like Egypt, started on a young Google executive’s Facebook page. Then it goes viral, raging uncontrollably. Can’t be stopped. Here in America the set-up is our nation’s pervasive “Super-Rich Delusion.”

We know the Super Rich don’t care. Not about you. Nor the American public. They can’t see. Can’t hear. Stay trapped in their Forbes-400 bubble. An echo chamber that isolates them. They see the public as faceless workers, customers, taxpayers. See GOP power on the ascent. Reaganomics is back. Unions on the run. Clueless masses are easily manipulated.

Even Obama is secretly working with the GOP, will never touch his Super Rich donors. Yes, the Super-Rich Delusion is that powerful, infecting all America.

Here’s how one savvy insider who knows described this Super-Rich Delusion: “The top 1% live privileged lives, aren’t worried about much. Families vacation at the best resorts. Their big concerns are finding the best Pilates teacher, best masseuse, best surgeons, best private schools. They aren’t concerned with the underlying deterioration of America or the world, except in the abstract, because they aren’t directly affected by it. That’s not to say they aren’t sympathetic, aware, or don’t talk about the issues you bring up. They are largely concerned with protecting and enhancing their socio-economic positions, ensuring their families live well. And nothing you write about will change things.”

Warning, in 2011 that attitude is delusional, deadly, yet pervasive in America.

Super Rich replaying “Great Gatsby” age, won’t learn till it’s too late

Our top 1% honestly believe they’re immune, protected from the unintended consequences of beating down average Americans for three decades with the free-market, trickle-down Reaganomics doctrines that made them Super Rich.

They honestly believe those same doctrines will protect them in the next depression. Why? Because they have megabucks stashed away. Provisions for the long haul. Live in gated compounds with mercenaries guarding them.

They believe they’ll continue living just fine in a depression. But you won’t. Nor will your retirement. Neither will the rest of America. And still the Super Rich don’t care, “except in the abstract, because they aren’t directly affected.”

Warning: The Super-Rich Delusion has pushed us to the edge of a great precipice: Remember the Roaring Twenties? The Crash of 1929? Great Depression? Just days before the crash one leading economist, Irving Fisher, predicted that stocks had “reached what looks like a permanently high plateau.”

Yes, he was trapped in the “Great Gatsby Syndrome,” an earlier version of today’s Super-Rich Delusion. It was so blinding in 1929 that the president, Wall Street, all America were sucked in … until the critical mass hit a mysterious flash point, triggering the crash.

Yes, we’re reliving that past — never learn, can’t hear. And oddly it’s not just the GOP’s overreach, the endlessly compromising Obama, too-greedy-to-fail Wall Street banksters, U.S. Chamber of Commerce billionaires and arrogant Forbes 400. America’s entire political, financial and economic psyche is infected, as if our DNA has been rewired.

The Collective American Brain is trapped in this Super-Rich Delusion, replaying the run-up to the ’29 Crash.

Nobody predicted 2011 revolutions in the oil-rich Arab world either

Warning: Mubarak, Gaddafi, Ali, Assad, even the Saudis also lived in the Super-Rich Delusion. Have for a long time. Were vulnerable. Ripe for a revolution. They, too, honestly believed they were divinely protected, chosen for great earthly wealth, enjoyed great armies.

Then, suddenly, out of the blue, a new “educated, unemployed and frustrated” generation turned on them, is now rebelling, demanding their share of economic benefits, opportunities, triggering revolutions, seeking retribution.

Still, you don’t believe there’s a depression ahead here in America? The third great market crash of the 21st century? A new economic revolution about to blow up in our faces? No, you don’t believe, can’t believe … you, me, we are all infected by the Super-Rich Delusion, just as Americans were in the Roaring Twenties.

Check the stats folks: The last time America’s wealth gap between the Super Rich and the other 99% was this big was just before the 1929 Crash and the Great Depression.

You can’t remember? Or you won’t? America is trapped in “terminal denial,” a setup for failure. Too many still live in the false hope of this Super-Rich Delusion. Do you believe government stats hyping a recovery? Believe Wall Street’s nonsense about a new bull market ahead? Believe Exxon-Mobile’s misleading ads about energy stocks. Believe Bill Gross’ when he says dump Treasurys, and buy his emerging country bonds? Dream on.

Start preparing for the third meltdown of the 21st Century, and depression

Denial and lies. Remember, 93% of what you hear about markets, finance and the economy are guesses, wishful thinking and lies intended to manipulate you into making decisions that suck money from your pockets into Wall Street. They get rich telling lies about securities. They hate any SEC fiduciary rules forcing them to tell the truth.

But the fact is, on an inflation-adjusted basis, Wall Street lost 20% of your retirement money in the decade from 2000 to 2010, over $10 trillion. And “Irrational Exuberance’s” Robert Shiller warns of a third meltdown coming. You better start preparing now.

Before you start betting any more at Wall Street’s rigged casinos, think long and hard about these six megatoxins lurking in America’s Super-Rich Delusion, a mind-altering pandemic infecting our nation’s leadership in Washington, Corporate America and Wall Street … but also “trickling down,” infecting many Americans. Listen:

1. Warning: Super Rich want tax cuts, creating youth unemployment

Bloomberg warns: “The Kids Are Not Alright.” Worldwide, youth unemployment is fueling the revolution. In a New York Times column, Matthew Klein, a 24-year-old Council on Foreign Relations researcher, draws a parallel between the 25% unemployment among Egypt’s young revolutionaries and the 21% for young American workers: “The young will bear the brunt of the pain” as governments rebalance budgets. Taxes on workers will be raised and spending on education will be cut while mortgage subsidies and entitlements for the elderly are untouchable,” as will tax cuts for the rich. Opportunities lost. “How much longer until the rest of the rich world” explodes like Egypt?

2. Warning: rich get richer on commodity prices, poor get angrier

USA Today’s John Waggoner warns: “Soaring food prices send millions into poverty, hunger: Corn up 52% in 12 months. Sugar 60%. Soybeans 41%. Wheat 24%. For 44 million the “rise in food prices means a descent into extreme poverty and hunger, warns the World Bank.” Many causes: Speculators. Soaring oil prices. Trade policies. Population explosion. But altogether they expose “the underlying inequalities and issues related to the standard of living that boil beneath the surface,” says a Pimco manager.

3. Warning: Global poor ticking time bomb targeting Super Rich

A Time special report, “Poor vs. Rich: A New Global Conflict” warned that a “conflict between two worlds — one rich, one poor — is developing, and the battlefield is the globe itself.” Just 25 developed nations of 750 million citizens consume most of the world’s resources, produce most of its manufactured goods and enjoy history’s highest standard of living.” But they’re now facing 100 underdeveloped poor nations with 2 billion people with hundreds of millions living in poverty all demanding “an ever larger share of that wealth.” Think Egypt. British leader calls this a “time bomb for the human race.”

4. Warning: Next revolution coming across ‘Third World America’

We are ripe for one: In “Third World America” Arianna Huffington warns: “Washington rushed to the rescue of Wall Street but forgot about Main Street … One in five Americans unemployed or underemployed. One in nine families unable to make the minimum payment on their credit cards. One in eight mortgages in default or foreclosure. One in eight Americans on food stamps. Upward mobility has always been at the center of the American Dream … that promise has been broken… The American Dream is becoming a nightmare.” Soon it will implode. a meltdown, revolution, depression.

5. Warning: Super Rich must be detoxed of their greed addiction

In “Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (And Stick You With the Bill),” David Cay Johnston, warns that the rich are like addicts, and to “the addicted, money is like cocaine, too much is never enough.” A few years ago an elite 300,000 Americans in “the top tenth of 1% of income had nearly as much income as all 150 million Americans who make up the economic lower half of our population.” The Super Rich Delusion is an addiction that requires a painful detox.

6. Warning: Politicians infected by Super-Rich Delusion, revolution

In “Washington’s Suicide Pact,” Newsweek’s Ezra Klein warns: “Congress is careening toward the worst of all worlds: massive job losses and an exploding deficit.” How bad? As many as 700,000 more jobs lost, says Moody’s chief economist, Mark Zandi. What a twist: Remember vice president Dick Cheney said “deficits don’t matter.” Today the GOP is so blinded by its obsession to destroy Obama’s presidency, deficits are now the only thing they say matters.

Wake up folks. The Super-Rich Delusion is destroying the American Dream for the rest of us. The Super Rich don’t care about you. They’re already stockpiling for the economic time bomb dead ahead. Don’t say you weren’t warned. Time for you to plan ahead for the coming revolution, for another depression.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/story/ ... 212804637C


edit: Edited to add in a little more formatting so it's not just a drone of text.


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29 Mar 2011, 5:33 pm

The Super Rich will pull no punches when it comes to protecting their homefront. Once the angry billions of the planet are baying for their heads outside the gates to their mansions, they will NOT hesitate to kill them all. The Rockefellers have already drawn up plans to use war and disease to reduce the population to 200 MILLION. That's right, 200 million. Once the world rebels, they will use WMD to kill literally everybody. All those angry billions of people will be swept from the earth in the blink of an eye. The super rich have underground farms and bunkers that can live without outside input in perpetuity. They will simply take up residence underground, then destroy the world. Once the earth has been swept clean, the super rich will be the only ones left. The future human race will descend from what they consider to be their superior DNA. It is the Noah's Ark Strategy-lock themselves in the Ark, then wipe clean the rest of the world.



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29 Mar 2011, 10:53 pm

if all us worker bees are killed off, then who will do their [the upper classes] dirty work for them? who will take care of their kids or do their housework or yardwork or fix their cars or such?



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29 Mar 2011, 10:55 pm

Expect the rich to just move somewhere else. Tax people too much and they'll simply (try to) find a way to stop playing.



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29 Mar 2011, 10:59 pm

How about liberals stop with the bull**** known as class warfare and stop spending worse than a drunken sailor.



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29 Mar 2011, 11:23 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
How about liberals stop with the bull**** known as class warfare and stop spending worse than a drunken sailor.

^^^^^That and the system needs to be fixed first or else taxing the rich will result in even more good money being thrown after bad. Trickle down economics can work when it stays inside our own economy, but more than ever under the Obama administration that money is trickling in to China so the lower classes never see it. Also alan Greenspan, an economic expert highly respected on both sides of the aisle, has called Obama's policies for government lending counterproductive- the system is set up for Obama's big banking buddies to get first shot at loans from the treasury, thus crowding out smaller investors. Obama may have campaigned on wealth redistribution, but his actions rarely have anything in common with what he says anymore. He may talk about looking after the little guy, but in reality, the Obama administration isn't looking out for you until you start having problems with $100 bills falling out your pant legs when you fart. Obama's ties to the financial industry aren't any different than Cheney's ties to the defense industry.


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29 Mar 2011, 11:53 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
How about liberals stop with the bull**** known as class warfare and stop spending worse than a drunken sailor.

If the GOP plan to due away with the income tax and implement a 30% national sales tax goes through and completely destroys/bankrupts the government treasury leading to skyrocketing inflation and unemployment, class warfare may become a reality. This is the beginning of the end.



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30 Mar 2011, 12:03 am

marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
How about liberals stop with the bull**** known as class warfare and stop spending worse than a drunken sailor.

If the GOP plan to due away with the income tax and implement a 30% national sales tax goes through and completely destroys/bankrupts the government treasury leading to skyrocketing inflation and unemployment, class warfare may become a reality. This is the beginning of the end.
Are you saying that lower tax revenue leads to inflation? Care to explain?



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30 Mar 2011, 12:05 am

mcg wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
How about liberals stop with the bull**** known as class warfare and stop spending worse than a drunken sailor.

If the GOP plan to due away with the income tax and implement a 30% national sales tax goes through and completely destroys/bankrupts the government treasury leading to skyrocketing inflation and unemployment, class warfare may become a reality. This is the beginning of the end.
Are you saying that lower tax revenue leads to inflation? Care to explain?


A flat tax is a good idea, but not as a sales tax, because it is not a visible tax that people have to think about.



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30 Mar 2011, 2:08 am

Inuyasha wrote:
mcg wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
How about liberals stop with the bull**** known as class warfare and stop spending worse than a drunken sailor.

If the GOP plan to due away with the income tax and implement a 30% national sales tax goes through and completely destroys/bankrupts the government treasury leading to skyrocketing inflation and unemployment, class warfare may become a reality. This is the beginning of the end.
Are you saying that lower tax revenue leads to inflation? Care to explain?


A flat tax is a good idea, but not as a sales tax, because it is not a visible tax that people have to think about.

A flat tax sounds good initially but there are tons of bugs to work out before it's feasible. For the purpose of this argument let's say it was set at 1%. 1% would be a far greater burden on lower class workers than the top 5%, and the top 5% would still create 69X more tax revenue than the working poor. I'm not suggesting class warfare OR trickle down economics here. You just can't finance a government on the tax revenue from the lower classes alone. On the other hand, we need to be careful not to get into the "they have lots of money, lets just take it from them" attitude that socialists have. I think what is ultimately going to be needed is a mathematical formula that goes up exponentially, though in reality, it is going to take a president that has not sold his soul to the banks and several years after that to come up with a new tax system.

Oh, and no tax system will replace the need for austerity measures.


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30 Mar 2011, 2:53 am

The super rich of America have far more in common with the super rich of oil rich Arab countries, Europe, and elsewhere. They push the same tired old line of sacrifice, patriotism and nationalism on the poor and middle class, but when it comes to themselves, their loyalty rests with their class regardless of borders.

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30 Mar 2011, 3:12 am

Tax the super rich? For what? So they can use it to stifle their competition and wage more wars which they profit from then maybe throw you a crumb? It's never going to change no how many "revolutions" you wage or who you put in charge.

If you really want to stick it to the super rich elite how about you get rid of the gun they have pointed at all our heads called the government?



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30 Mar 2011, 3:30 am

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If you really want to stick it to the super rich elite how about you get rid of the gun they have pointed at all our heads called the government?

The government still has some properties of a safeguard left. Without it, the super rich would be warlords.


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30 Mar 2011, 3:46 am

John_Browning wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
If you really want to stick it to the super rich elite how about you get rid of the gun they have pointed at all our heads called the government?

The government still has some properties of a safeguard left. Without it, the super rich would be warlords.


Who are the warlords now? At least then they'd have to pay for it themselves instead of stealing other people's money.



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30 Mar 2011, 6:01 am

John_Browning wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
If you really want to stick it to the super rich elite how about you get rid of the gun they have pointed at all our heads called the government?

The government still has some properties of a safeguard left. Without it, the super rich would be warlords.


Without the rich, you would be unemployed. How many jobs have the miserable poor created? People who are smart enough to create jobs for others are either rich to begin with or are clever enough to make jobs and invent stuff and will become rich in due course. Wealth is one of the rewards and incentives for people to bring new things and ideas to the rest of us.

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30 Mar 2011, 8:21 am

ruveyn wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
If you really want to stick it to the super rich elite how about you get rid of the gun they have pointed at all our heads called the government?

The government still has some properties of a safeguard left. Without it, the super rich would be warlords.


Without the rich, you would be unemployed. How many jobs have the miserable poor created? People who are smart enough to create jobs for others are either rich to begin with or are clever enough to make jobs and invent stuff and will become rich in due course. Wealth is one of the rewards and incentives for people to bring new things and ideas to the rest of us.

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In the real world capitalism is not a meritocracy. Though there are a few exceptions, in general it is MUCH easier to make a lot of money when you already have a lot of money to start with. Providing tax relief to the poor and middle class in the form of progressive taxation adds to the pool of potential innovation. I mean, what if Bill Gates had been forced to live in desperate poverty? I don't think he would have had the opportunity to become the billionaire he is today. He simply wouldn't have had the time or money to educate himself and pursue his personal interests because all his time, money, and effort would go to mere survival. Even if the majority of the poor are the "useless eaters" you make them out to be, that doesn't justify denying opportunity to the minority who aren't and could do something revolutionary if only they had the access to education and some free time.