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Daryl_Blonder
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21 Apr 2011, 8:21 am

It's especially directed toward the oil companies these days, but also to banks, telecommunications outfits, you name it, the have-nots are always bashing the haves with no logic behind their rhetoric except anger.

It's like, come on. Everyone's greedy. You're greedy, I'm greedy. You're telling me that if you worked your way up to a high-end position in a large company you wouldn't take advantage of all the perks you'd get? That you wouldn't buy a mansion for yourself, a luxury car for your wife, and send your kids to the best Ivy League school around, and put away millions of dollars into your 401K?

How about thinking of it in terms of, what a momumentous task it is for oil to be extracted from the territory of politically volatile countries halfway around the globe, refined, shipped without being sabotaged, distributed around the world, and eventually ending up at your local fill station?

--And all this has to be done to satisfy the shareholders.

People are just such HYPOCRITES! When are they gonna wise up and figure out (or admit) that you either run with the wolves or get eaten by them... that's just the way it is.

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21 Apr 2011, 8:29 am

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It's like, come on. Everyone's greedy. You're greedy, I'm greedy. You're telling me that if you worked your way up to a high-end position in a large company you wouldn't take advantage of all the perks you'd get? That you wouldn't buy a mansion for yourself, a luxury car for your wife, and send your kids to the best Ivy League school around, and put away millions of dollars into your 401K?

Correct, I would not ... but neither would I have ever "worked my way up" to "running with the wolves" in the first place. And as to the matter of complaining about greed in others, I say just let 'em have whatever they can get because that is all they ever even will get.


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21 Apr 2011, 8:48 am

Yeah... I would not be buying a mansion. Money scares me. I'd end up giving most of it away, leaving just enough for me to be able to survive. I think money can ruin people. But at the same time, I do not complain about corporate people or whatever. I have more pressing things to stress about... those people have no impact on my reality anyhow, so whatever.


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21 Apr 2011, 9:15 am

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Yeah... I would not be buying a mansion. Money scares me. I'd end up giving most of it away, leaving just enough for me to be able to survive. I think money can ruin people. But at the same time, I do not complain about corporate people or whatever. I have more pressing things to stress about... those people have no impact on my reality anyhow, so whatever.


If you would care to ruin me I wouldn't really mind.

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21 Apr 2011, 9:29 am

Everyone is greedy.

Shouldn't be an excuse to plainly act unethically.


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21 Apr 2011, 9:32 am

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dossa wrote:
Yeah... I would not be buying a mansion. Money scares me. I'd end up giving most of it away, leaving just enough for me to be able to survive. I think money can ruin people. But at the same time, I do not complain about corporate people or whatever. I have more pressing things to stress about... those people have no impact on my reality anyhow, so whatever.


If you would care to ruin me I wouldn't really mind.

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Heh heh heh. If some money ever comes my way, I will put you on the top of my list of folks to send it off to. But you cannot have all of it. There are several local charities I have my eyes on. :)


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21 Apr 2011, 9:36 am

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Heh heh heh. If some money ever comes my way, I will put you on the top of my list of folks to send it off to ...

Caution to you, Ruveyn: People with more money just have more money troubles.


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21 Apr 2011, 9:41 am

Daryl_Blonder wrote:
Everyone's greedy. You're greedy, I'm greedy.


Nope. Not true. Especially not true that everyone will throw everyone under the bus in the way that the greedy corporations will do.


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21 Apr 2011, 9:57 am

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... throw everyone under the bus in the way that the greedy corporations will do.

Corporations have no conscience.


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21 Apr 2011, 10:10 am

leejosepho wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
... throw everyone under the bus in the way that the greedy corporations will do.

Corporations have no conscience.


Of course, it's a collective acting indirectly on a massive number of people.


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21 Apr 2011, 10:11 am

leejosepho wrote:
dossa wrote:
Heh heh heh. If some money ever comes my way, I will put you on the top of my list of folks to send it off to ...

Caution to you, Ruveyn: People with more money just have more money troubles.



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21 Apr 2011, 10:26 am

Some people have short memories, do you remember Enron?
Need I say more, corporations hid behind one of the biggest lies of management theory, corporate social responsibility.
The true is a corporation's only responsibility is to its shareholders.



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21 Apr 2011, 10:30 am

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Some people have short memories, do you remember Enron?
Need I say more, corporations hid behind one of the biggest lies of management theory, corporate social responsibility.
The true is a corporation's only responsibility is to its shareholders.


And then Goldman Sachs did it again.

EDIT: and going by how all of these companies have acted; I'd say the only true responsibility of a corporation is to its executives. Enron certainly did not have its shareholders in mind when their fraud tanked however many thousands of people's life savings.


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21 Apr 2011, 10:41 am

cdfox7 wrote:
Some people have short memories, do you remember Enron?
Need I say more, corporations hid behind one of the biggest lies of management theory, corporate social responsibility.
The true is a corporation's only responsibility is to its shareholders.


And where was the SEC, they were busy watching videos of naked people instead of doing their jobs.



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21 Apr 2011, 10:51 am

skafather84 wrote:
cdfox7 wrote:
Some people have short memories, do you remember Enron?
Need I say more, corporations hid behind one of the biggest lies of management theory, corporate social responsibility.
The true is a corporation's only responsibility is to its shareholders.


And then Goldman Sachs did it again.

EDIT: and going by how all of these companies have acted; I'd say the only true responsibility of a corporation is to its executives. Enron certainly did not have its shareholders in mind when their fraud tanked however many thousands of people's life savings.


Have you see the documentary & read the book called The Corporation, in the book it calls the behaviour of executives as schizophrenic.



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21 Apr 2011, 10:53 am

cdfox7 wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
cdfox7 wrote:
Some people have short memories, do you remember Enron?
Need I say more, corporations hid behind one of the biggest lies of management theory, corporate social responsibility.
The true is a corporation's only responsibility is to its shareholders.


And then Goldman Sachs did it again.

EDIT: and going by how all of these companies have acted; I'd say the only true responsibility of a corporation is to its executives. Enron certainly did not have its shareholders in mind when their fraud tanked however many thousands of people's life savings.


Have you see the documentary & read the book called The Corporation, in the book it calls the behaviour of executives as schizophrenic.


Again where was the SEC, and are you taking the Community Reinvestment Act's role into account?

You haven't stopped to consider either of these have you.