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Assuming something can and should be done for / about those WPPPRists [rhymes with Tsarists] who reply to your post addressing 15 points you never made, which would be better:

WP-provided vision testing and spectacles

OR

A course in rational thought, admission to PPR being conditional on passing?

I am a half-empty glasser - so I am not certain there is any hope.

Disclaimer:

This post has said NOTHING about Obama, Free Trade, Animal Rights, the Assumption, Global Warming, Transformational Grammar, or Gay Marriage.

Please do not read it thinking it has.

Ah, you dreamer, you!

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Readers only hallucinate nonexistant points with you, and only with you, and never with anyone else.

So dont be insulted if I point out the obvious: the problem is the poster (ie you Philogos) not us the readers.

So the solution would be for you to take the 101 Freshman writing class in the college that employees you to brush up on your expository writing because though you're obviously fluent in the educationese of your fellow academics you obviously dont know how to write in the plain english of the nonacademics on this website.

You want to make PPR less PPR? Those things make PPR what it is!

Why are you against free trade!?

To get this clean in my mind Philologos you what do have a discussion about Map-Territory relations without considering Transformational Grammar, I think that might be a bit channelling

Neither.

Having a thick skin and providing quotes to the points being challenged would suffice.

cdfox:

No offense, but even having heard a little Scowse the following is to me unintelligible:

"To get this clean in my mind Philologos you what do have a discussion about Map-Territory relations without considering Transformational Grammar, I think that might be a bit channelling "

Can you restate that to help me see if there can be an answer? It looks like one of those things where the cursor accidentally moves to a different line and I get a mess.

Fnord: after X years as a spectral nonconformist in nasty academia my skin is thick enough for most purposes, though if someone starts drawing obscene symbols on that skin I rise up and smite.

But quotes? I do not do quotes. At the U I could never see that citing somebody else's idea made mine more reliable.

I will adduce evidence. Rarely I will link to a relevant document.

But I tend to go more off my own experience than the consensus. I know AG tends to disapprove.

In any case - I very much doubt that the authorities I would quote wouls make anything I said more acceprable or comprehensible.

Like here is a REALLY good quote, that I could even use, from Religio Medici:

For my Religion, though there be severall circumstances that might perswade the world I have none at all, as the generall scandall of my profession, the naturall course of my studies, the indifferency of my behaviour, and discourse in matters of Religion, neither violently defending one, nor with that common ardour and contention opposing another; yet in despight hereof I dare, without usurpation, assume the honorable stile of a Christian: not that I meerely owe this title to the Font, my education, or Clime wherein I was borne, as being bred up either to confirme those principles my Parents instilled into my unwary understanding; or by a generall consent proceed in the Religion of my Countrey: But having, in my riper yeares, and confirmed judgement, seene and examined all, I finde my selfe obliged by the principles of Grace, and the law of mine owne reason, to embrace no other name but this; neither doth herein my zeale so farre make me forget the generall charitie I owe unto humanity, as rather to hate then pity Turkes, Infidels, and (what is worse) Jewes, rather contenting my selfe to enjoy that happy stile, then maligning those who refuse so glorious a title.

You got to admit he puts it well.

Same here. I like to use them to let other people know I did not just recently come up with something "out of the blue" or all on my own, yet the path I walk and try to share had been chosen for its destination -- we all do that, actually -- rather than by taking even casual note of the relative depth of its rut.