When the riots begin
I support and always will support maintaining a social safety net but not a social safety hammock.
Being on the dole for life is neither conductive to wellbeing or self-respect.
Don't twist my words. I'm talking about people who truly CANNOT find work, people who have a CHRONIC ILLNESS they cannot afford to treat, etc... NOT people with no obsticles who simply don't want to work. You're not going to tell me with a straight face that cutting programs like medicaid will not affect these people negatively? If you say cuts are only going to affect lazy people who refuse to work you are a bald faced liar.
You can't save everyone! Maybe if the US were the size of Luxembourg we could but not a country of this size and population not to mention the ever fluctuating economy. I never said that everyone on relief was lazy I clearly said that some and not all so don't twist MY words.
I can see it's no use discussing this further with you because you've already made your mind up that 2+2=3.
Time to move on...........
You are correct that I will never accept your opinion that people are expendable. If you weren't trying to twist my words why didn't you notice where I said "through no fault of their own" and drop the mention of "lazy people".
No, the U.S. CHOOSES not to look after its sick and its weak. They don't contribute $$, which is the only thing that matters here anymore.
No, the U.S. CHOOSES not to look after its sick and its weak. They don't contribute $$, which is the only thing that matters here anymore.
I shall correct you.
The "globalist thinkers" who are pushing most all western societies do not value the sick and weak.
Of the most "expendable" of humans, the elderly and children are at the top of the list. Children are tolerated because they are the future generation.
In the eyes of these people, once you no longer are an effective producer and consumer, your value in the world no longer justifies what it take to preserve your existence.
These are some very sick people, and they ARE NOT limited to the USA....they are dictating policy on a global scale.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... ml?hpid=z5
http://live.washingtonpost.com/outlook- ... -0815.html
When the Washington Post raises the question, you know the topic of social dislocation in America has become mainstream. The worries are now public and increasingly voiced by elites within the establishment.
No, the U.S. CHOOSES not to look after its sick and its weak. They don't contribute $$, which is the only thing that matters here anymore.
How about this?
It's an excerpt from a Wikipedia article on St. Judes in Memphis.
Take note of the last sentence, underlined by me so you won't miss it.
Do you want me to find more examples of how we look after our sick and weak, goddamnit?
"All medically eligible patients who are accepted for treatment at St. Jude are treated without regard to the family's ability to pay. St. Jude is one of a few pediatric research organizations in the United States where families never pay for treatments that are not covered by insurance, and families without insurance are never asked to pay. In addition to providing medical services to eligible patients, St. Jude also assists families with transportation, lodging, and meals. Three separate specially-designed patient housing facilities—Grizzly House for short-term (up to one week), Ronald McDonald House for medium-term (one week to 3 months), and Target House for long-term (3 months or more)—provide housing for patients and up to three family members, with no cost to the patient. These policies, along with research expenses and other costs, cause the hospital to incur more than $2.4 million in operating costs each day. Around $180,000 is covered by patient insurance; the remaining $2.22 million/day is funded by charitable contributions."
ruveyn
There are a lot of stupid people out there like the Wall Street protesters who mostly do not know why they are even protesting. Never underestimate what stupid people will do when their tempers start to flare. Across the nation, states and cities are facing another dismal budget year that promises more painful cuts. It will not be a revolution, but the breakdown in law and order will happen soon enough.
ruveyn
There are a lot of stupid people out there like the Wall Street protesters who mostly do not know why they are even protesting. Never underestimate what stupid people will do when their tempers start to flare. Across the nation, states and cities are facing another dismal budget year that promises more painful cuts. It will not be a revolution, but the breakdown in law and order will happen soon enough.
Make a prediction when the Revolution will begin. Real years and real numbers please.
ruveyn
In the scheme of things. that is a minor scuffle and that is not what the OP had in mind (I believe).
ruveyn
ruveyn
There are a lot of stupid people out there like the Wall Street protesters who mostly do not know why they are even protesting. Never underestimate what stupid people will do when their tempers start to flare. Across the nation, states and cities are facing another dismal budget year that promises more painful cuts. It will not be a revolution, but the breakdown in law and order will happen soon enough.
Which is what people on the left have wanted for years for their new world order.
No one is talking about revolution. Even the people who got themselves arrested for blocking traffic at the Brooklyn Bridge cannot articulate what they would replace the present system with. But there is a sense of outrage at how a decent, middle class existence seems to be slipping beyond the grasp of many. But unlike in Greece, where the riots are fed by massive financial dislocation, or in Britain, where there has been a long running culture of social malfeasance, what we will see in America reflects deeper problems that cannot be explained or solved easily.
Little things like the new $5 monthly charge that the banks are going to impose on debit card holders can seem incredibly unfair to people who believe that the large banks, bailed out with the people's money, should serve the people and not abuse them. When people lose faith in the system, they chuck aside the law. Why play along when you are destined to lose? And so they riot.
If you want a date, I would say that 2012 would a year to watch. Not only is it an election year, for an alarming number of people, 2012 is the year the world is supposed to end. Nibiru anyone?
ruveyn
Oh come on! I have been right about the riots thus far. An exact date is impossible to pin down, but I do not think the status quo can continue on much longer. Too many bad things are happening and there are way too many stupid and ignorant people out there. Plus you have these hard core fight club anarchists who are itching to turn the world upside down. That said, 2012 is looking like it will be a bad year for America. The problem with these idiotic prophecies is that they have a way of becoming self-fulfilling in that the people who believe in it act out and make it a nightmare for everyone.