Adolf Hitler was Lucky

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...that he was born a Germanic boy in the late 1880's, instead of in the early 1920's.

I can only imagine that if he were labeled some sort of "social miscreant" during his days as a schoolboy in the Third-Reich, the good people of the T-4 program might conceiveably have taken the adolescent Hitler and zapped his little gonads..... They could have fried his little huevos, so that there would be no future ugly little swarthy incorrigible Hitlers with dark hair.

If he were homeless or futilely pursuing art during the war, and he was drafted into some satanic-munitions factory, I doubt the overseers would have been too pleased if Hitler quit the assembly lines to go paint postcards or give soapbox-rabble-rousing speeches during work-hours. They would have had little patience for that sort of thing and sent him off to Dachau.

Its conceiveable that Hitler's natural internal rebellion could have taken him somewhere to the diametric-left of what the Third Reich was.

With the extreme circumstances prevailing in Germany in the early 1930's, its too probable that some extreme government would have taken power to fix the situation, with some other ferocious leader. Such a government may well have wanted to liquidate of its 'undesireables," and scapegoats.

How many other similar German youths grew up like Hitler, and had trouble fitting in....... but unfortunately grew up during the 3rd Reich? They would have to go get bullied at Hitler Youth camps and get generally ostracized, and have their social-struggles exposed in the absolutely worst way. Hitler at one of his Hitler Youth camps, seriously??? He would be Gomer Pyle. How many other prospective Hitler-type of boys were just destroyed in that system?

Himmler was the same way...... he was too physically weak to pass officer selection during WWI in Bavaria, but yet his SS schools had some of the most barbaric and strict training regimens in the world. I doubt he could have passed his own selection.

Speaking as well, I wonder what ever happened to Dr. Asperger's "4 lil' professors," who were living in what was the 3rd Reich in Austria in 1944? How did they make out? were they done off with too, or mabye killed in the battle of Vienna? I would be genuinely curious to know how those poor boys ever made out? I can't imagine they had anything close to an idyllic situation that they were growing up in.

I suspect without Hitler's wheeling dealing behind the scenes with Germany's military and industrial elite, Germany very possibly would have gone communist. Who's to say how Hitler would fit in such a political system. And even if a right wing cabal would have seized power in Germany, I suspect it would have been the SA Brown Shirts under Ernst Rohm, and/or the Freicorps, who were renowned as unsophisticated street brawlers and head bashers. So would Hitler have made it as a storm trooper? Who's to say? But I suspect that shrill little would-be-artist/poseur would have gotten on the other right wingers' nerves, till one of them would have just shot him while drinking.
As for Hitler becoming a victim of the SS - well, it should be remembered that the SS was specifically founded by Hitler as his Body Guard Division. It really only rose to prominence when the SS leader Heinrich Himmler gave Hitler the pretext and means of ridding the Nazi party, and the German military of Ernst Rohm and the SA leadership. So no Hitler in power, no SS. No SS, no dead Ernst Rohm.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Psssst.....without real Hitler there wouldn't have been nazis to bother hypothetical Hitler.

It is completely hypothetical, but the sociological conditions that led to the surge of Nazism were there regardless of the existence of Hitler. It is also likely Hitler was himself a charming puppet (As most political figures are) because he carried a school of thought from certain groups with specific agendas.

There have been, and are, and probably will continue to be extreme governments all over the world.
Still, Hitler is generally agreed to have led the MOST extreme government in modern history.
Take him out of the equation, and I don't think anything close to Nazi Germany would have evolved.

Actually, towards the end of the war, Hitler shanghaied Mussolini into handing over the South Tyrol, and some other territory that used to be Austro Hungarian back to be annexed the 3rd Reich. This was in 1944 when Mussolini wasn't anything more than Hitler's deputy puppet ruling Northern Italy.

In 1945, I think Hitler actually annexed Venice as well and some of the valleys north of Milan to the Reich. The war ended a couple months later though and all of these border rectifications were voided. Italy actually got back most of its old territory, including Trieste and the Germanic Tyrol, for heping out the Allies in the 2nd half. Italy also got to keep their military instantly after war, send players to the 48 olympics, and was not hamstrung in any real way due to their prior Axis membership. They even got their protectorate back over Somalia until 1951.

I guess the Allies figured that the Italians had suffered enough with the invasion and they wanted to create another middleweight power who could stabilize democracy in south-Europe.

Mussolini was pretty much the Gauleiter of Lombardy in 1944, but Hitler forced on him a shameful reannexation of the Tyrol and some other territory. The plan at first had been to resettle German Tyroleans in the Crimea, but that obviously wasn't goin to happen.

I'm aware that anti-semitism in Germany pre-dated Hitler.
Still, I maintain there's no Hitleresque Germany without THE Hitler.