Why are atheists allowed to marry anyway?

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Marriage is a civil contract. The law does not deem that contract to be a religious sacrament.

ruveyn

I think clergymen and women have every right to refuse to marry anybody to anybody for any or no reason.

Government officials, on the other hand, do not.

Solution trivial. Have a civil ceremony.

ruveyn

Takataka tu.

TWOFOLD takataka - first on the ticket of the author who should know better.

Second on the ticket of anybody who might actually make the alleged claims, and people being in many cases unthinking and / or jerks I would not bet there are none such - THEY should know better.

Marriage is a practice of family / society [Marriage 1] which is a separate issue from religion endorsed marriage [Marriage 2] which some belief systems maintain receives special graces and protection from God AND from state endorsed marriage [Marriage 3] which under some governments receives special incentives or regulations.

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The author of the referenced item is clearly absolutely ignorant of the cases and places where Christian traditions recognize as special couples continent for God or separating into monastic settlements.

Of course, alleged theists making the alleged statements would be equally ignorant.

How is religion connected to marriage at all?

If that is a sincere question, you need to do some reading up on history and Comparative Religion.

Polygamy will be the next argument. It may take 10 years or it may take 50 but eventually 3+party contracts will get the nod.

I am not big on religion but why should atheists not get married? Whatever reasons they are getting married for how does religion come in between? or why should religion come in between? Atheists are capable of loving each other just as much as believers are... are they not?

Please check my statement about four posts above this.

Like I said, marriage is au fond independent of both religious organizations and the state. In cases and places where both the state and religious organizations are actively involved in society the two often operate independently of one another. You don't need to be a believer for a state marriage. You don't need to satisfy the regs for a church wedding.

Yes my question was to the OP...

^ The point is that theists oppose gay marriage as if they were forgetting that marriage has stopped having anything to do with religion about a century ago. In other words, opposing homosexual marriage on religious grounds is as dumb and inappropriate as opposing atheist marriage . This contract between couple has long, looong ago stopped to follow the bible. Thus Christian religion is not a great argument whatsoever against gay marriage, because we have long ago stopped caring about it in our legislation.

So, the question to Christians is why do they believe they are still entitled to deciding what kind of marriage should be legal as all the arguments that they use to oppose gay marriage already contradict most of the stuff society is already allowing.

And then the article becomes creepy, because it is a warning. If you let theists win this one, they will not take long before they attempt to forbid marriage between people that don't want to have children or are not religious.

Or rather, you lose points for not being able to understand the article at all.



"alleged". Please stop pretending that those arguments aren't the first thing that floods any discussion about same sex marriage.

The argument that marriage is a sacrament of God and its purpose is to have children is merely religious. Laws do not say anything about god or having kids. And marriage is a legal requirement above all. You have to be legally married before the religious ceremony. So that argument is bull. Another none-sense discriminative argument.

That's what i mean.

It's well within the rights of religion to refuse to sanctify a marriage strictly because their eyes are the wrong color.

A justice of the peace or a judge, on the other hand, is bound by law to marry anyone who meets the legal requirements and fills out the right paperwork and pays the right fees.

That's like asking why the police believe they can prosecute those who make pirate copies of music tracks when doing so goes against what society already allows. Also, the last time I checked, Christianity was not about conforming to society.

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In some states (Massachussets, for example) a blood test must be made to show neither party has a venereal disease.

ruveyn