Lucid Dreaming

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I have experienced lucid dreams since I was very young. Though I have not mastered the process I have become very proficient at inducing them and am becoming better all the time. Does anyone else here have lucid dreams, out of body experiences, or psychic dreams?

Last edited by VesicaPisces on 27 Aug 2006, 6:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Excerpt from wikipedia article on Lucid dreaming.

"Lucid dreaming is the conscious perception of one's state while dreaming, resulting in a much clearer ("lucid") experience and usually enabling direct control over the content of the dream.[1] The complete experience from start to finish is called a lucid dream. Stephen LaBerge, a popular author and experimenter on the subject, has defined it as "dreaming while knowing that you are dreaming."[2]

LaBerge and his associates have called people who purposely explore the possibilities of lucid dreaming oneironauts (literally from the Greek meaning "dream explorers"). The topic attracts the attention of a diverse and eclectic group, namely psychologists, self-help authors, New Age groups, mystics, occultists, and artists. This list is by no means exhaustive nor does interest in lucid dreaming apply necessarily to each group.

Lucid dreamers regularly describe their dreams as exciting, colourful, and fantastic. Many compare it to a spiritual experience and say that it changed their lives or their perception of the world. Some have even reported lucid dreams that take on a hyperreality, seemingly "more real than real", where all the elements of reality are amplified. Lucid dreams are prodigiously more memorable than other kinds of dreaming, even nightmares, which may be why they are often prescribed as a means of ridding one's self of troubling dreams.

Although clear and consistent knowledge is difficult to find among the many interpretations of the experience — especially considering its highly subjective nature — the validity of lucid dreaming as a scientifically verified phenomenon is well-established. It may be classified as a protoscience, pending an increase in scientific knowledge about the subject. Researchers such as Allan Hobson with his neurophysiological approach to dreaming have helped to push the understanding of lucid dreaming into a less speculative realm."

I've wanted these for some time, and am going to attempt a method to get them soon. It's the CAT method if you check Wikibooks. They have a great book on inducing lucid dreams.

i have a friend named leviathian on the internet that has alot of lucid dreams, he said after awhile you can begin to control them after you get good at it.

I think that I used to have a lot more control in them, but I still get a fair number of dreams that are probably lucid.

I've had some, but when I get the control I use it to imagine difficult stuff (because after I try hard to visualise various stuff, I find myself waking up).

It's like I try to force my brain to do various imaginations for me, and it can't cope, so I wake up

why is this in Politics, Philosophy, and Religion?

Have had lucid dreams since I was a child. The first type of dream I became lucid in was the one were you fall. It took a long time before I started with dream control and I am still not very good at it, but it sure is lot of fun.

What do you like to do when you have dream control?
Me:
#flying (something I master adequatly)
#cruel things to people I hate
#girls...
#looking at stuff at microspic level pseudoscience, being inside my body or brain
#doing myself to a ww2 aircraft or an other species like a dragonfly (Aeshna juncea in my case, I am improving my compound eyes!).

The 3last ones are hard and are often not like I want it to be.

It is definitely associated with religion and philosophy. To me it underscores the conception of reality and that which we percieve to be reality. Some consider waking life to be the artifice and the dreamscape to be the true reality. Others such as myself philosophize that it is dualistic in nature and that we truly never sleep. In association to religion I would argue that one of the main pillar stones of religion is belief, and lucid dreaming may have an effect on belief.

Lately, when I'm stoned, I get lucid dreaming flashes (and sometimes when I'm too stoned to tell the difference I seem to dream for longer periods), which I take to be because of hard meditation practice and magick rituals as of late. I haven't yet begun practicing lucid dreaming or astral projection, but I plan to start shortly. It seems really cool! The best book I've heard of on the subject is this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Exploring-World-D ... F8&s=books

On September 2nd 2006 I experienced my first lucid dream directly from conciousness. I have experienced lucidity in the past as stated above, yet entering the dreamworld directly from waking life is to me amazing.

Wow! Please elaborate the experience.

Laying on couch waiting for a special someone to come over. Thought to myself, if I take a nap I will hear her knock. Drifted off into a meditative state and entered into the hypnogogic zone. Began hearing the hum or electrical like feeling that is experienced prior to entering the dream state. Heard a knock on the door and thought I was awoken. I said hold on and attempted to get up. I could not, I was paralyzed. I said hold on again and reattempted to get up. I fell over onto the floor and then tried saying help. A murmured variation is all that came out. I allowed myself to become frightened and then awoke. This was all a little disorienting. I was not sure if someone had really knocked or if it was a dream element. I got upand answered the door and no one was there. I asked her the next day if she had knocked and she said yes. Though it was a totally different time frame. I will attempt to do this again. Now that I have identified the internal mechanism that effects induction it should become much easier. I wish I had more to tell.

I also had many lucid dreams as a child, and also waking hallucinations. Seemed to increase or I became aware of them as unusual after a very strong experience when I had a fever, around age 9. Began exploring control within them... i now believe highly related to AS, especially sense of space. Proprioception seems to be either heightened or disabled (i don't mind saying i'm a very good dancer, but freaky i suppose).

I began making recontact with this childhood core of AS after i began pursuing meditation in earnest (Malaclypse i read some of your posts... similar experiences). Lucid dreaming seemed to come as a natural consequence. Increased concentration, heightened curiosity, ability to control reaction to subjective states, set up and maintain multiple levels of awareness. The craziest thing that's happened to me in dream-like state is something some have called sleep paralysis--much like what you described, VesicaPisces. In mine, i was simply following my consciousness into sleep, keeping an ever thinner thread of self-awareness, until i emerged, very suddenly, into a realm of utter blackness and silence and disembodiment. I was only able to maintain it for a few seconds, because of the shock.

Hasn't happened lately, due to changing priorities and the evolution of relationship with meditation... but other, quieter things emerge as well: waking naps, delayed appearance of peripheral awareness. I'd love to chat more on such things, but this is my first post and am a little insecure. ...

Its expensive but acetyl-L-Carnitine will produce more vivid dreams.

Acetyl-L-Carnitine 250 mg to 500 mg , 4 times a day

I took alpha lipoic acid to reduce heavy metals and found it reduce the need for sleep.
Oh and its know to improve acetyl-L-Carnitine

Alpha Lipoic Acid 300mg , 2-4 times aday


DMAE I took it in college Its FDA approved for the treatment of ADHD. I think it might
help a little with the hyper part of ADHD (but I do not have hyperactivity myself to say
for sure)

500 mg -1000mg daily


Idebenone is a type of coenzyme q10 it works with Acetyl-L-Carnitine
45 mg or so daily

i get lucid dreams occasionally, but the problem i have is that when they become lucid i have a tendency to wake myself up. i've been trying this technique for the past week or so to try and increase the frequency of them, haven't noticed any effect yet, but it says it takes three weeks for the beaviour to become habitual, so i'll see what happens after that.

http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chao ... lucid.html

Hahaha!
Sorry, I'm not at all laughing in mockery (because it sounds very scary to experience), but it must've looked very funny.
And thanks a lot for sharing! I look forward to more details about the dream state itself, though, since that's what I was most interested in.



Woah! That sort of completes the story, provided it's the same for both of you. Scary and highly interesting.



That one sounds really nice to use for a short period according to the wikipedia article about it. Thanks for the tips!