The 5 Biggest Lies Told about Oslo Shooter Anders Breivik

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30 Jul 2011, 4:10 am

The 5 Biggest Lies Told about Oslo Shooter Anders Breivik
The discussion about the Norway massacre has been corrupted with politicized falsehoods and wishful thinking.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-5-biggest-lies-told-about-oslo-shooter-anders-breivik/?singlepage=true


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30 Jul 2011, 7:40 am

Apparently the guy wasn't crazy and it's the "The Norwegian government’s refusal to deal with the reality of hostile, separatist, un-assimilated, and violent Muslim enclaves in its midst" what finally forced Breivik’s hand.

So, the guy is an innocent fighter for freedom, and not a fascist nor a zionist because they are 'by definition' contradictory.

Oh, and since Muslim massacres are more successful in numbers, we should totally not consider wing massacres as bad.


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30 Jul 2011, 9:02 am

I am just waiting for it, waiting for when all the analysi have rolled in, that someone suggests Breivik is in fact quite possibly autistic, and that because after the fact, suggestions of the sort have been made about other despicable people like Geoffrey Dahmer,Ted Kaczynski, Adolf Hitler and Keith Joseph.


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30 Jul 2011, 9:07 am

boxoffrogs wrote:
I am just waiting for it, waiting for when all the analysi have rolled in, that someone suggests Breivik is in fact quite possibly autistic, and that because after the fact, suggestions of the sort have been made about other despicable people like Geoffrey Dahmer,Ted Kaczynski, Adolf Hitler and Keith Joseph.


Or maybe Breivik is just wrong in the way he thinks.

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30 Jul 2011, 9:14 am

ruveyn wrote:
boxoffrogs wrote:
I am just waiting for it, waiting for when all the analysi have rolled in, that someone suggests Breivik is in fact quite possibly autistic, and that because after the fact, suggestions of the sort have been made about other despicable people like Geoffrey Dahmer,Ted Kaczynski, Adolf Hitler and Keith Joseph.


Or maybe Breivik is just wrong in the way he thinks.

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that

i think he kept pushing himself further and further away from "reality" and he got to a point where he couldnt turn back, fast forward a couple of years and all he can think about is this "cause" that cost him his life.(yeah well or something, i dont want to set my mind on anything at the moment)


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30 Jul 2011, 9:19 am

I am not a trick cyclist and am not convinced I trust the general run of diagnosticians.

That said, sooner a gentle and intelligent nutter than an eminently sane mass murderer. And if any one cares what his cause is [distinguish the cause of him] I have to ask why? Sooner a gentle [pick your sense] and intelligent enemy than a mass murderer on "our side".



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30 Jul 2011, 1:26 pm

The article is wrong about the religion angle. He did claim to be moderately religious and prayed to explain his attack to god. But religion in a mystical sense wasn't his motive. It was cultural conservatism and anti-multiculturalism. He said it dozens of times so it's not a mystery.



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30 Jul 2011, 2:46 pm

I don't like when people call him a Neo-Nazi. While he did have connections to Neo-Nazis, and might have been one at a point, he is an anti-Islamic Zionist. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he was contracted by the Mossad.



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30 Jul 2011, 3:35 pm

donnie_darko wrote:
I don't like when people call him a Neo-Nazi. While he did have connections to Neo-Nazis, and might have been one at a point, he is an anti-Islamic Zionist. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he was contracted by the Mossad.


Another lie topic

Breivik a Mossad agent. This would be very amusing if the outcome was not so tragic.


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30 Jul 2011, 3:38 pm

sartresue wrote:
donnie_darko wrote:
I don't like when people call him a Neo-Nazi. While he did have connections to Neo-Nazis, and might have been one at a point, he is an anti-Islamic Zionist. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he was contracted by the Mossad.


Another lie topic

Breivik a Mossad agent. This would be very amusing if the outcome was not so tragic.


I don't have any proof for it, it's just an idea. You think the Mossad are immune from doing any wrong, seriously?



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30 Jul 2011, 3:51 pm

some of the wikileaks cabls tella very diffferent story of mossad, something their general omage in the world coorporates.


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30 Jul 2011, 3:55 pm

He was a nut with a gun, a grudge, and easy access to his victims - a classic case of Means, Motive, and Opportunity.

And no one saw it coming, even after he posted his "Manifesto".


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30 Jul 2011, 6:26 pm

Fnord wrote:
He was a nut with a gun, a grudge, and easy access to his victims - a classic case of Means, Motive, and Opportunity.

And no one saw it coming, even after he posted his "Manifesto".


He is as sane as your or I. However his working assumptions are a lot different from mine and I imagine a lot different from yours.

Do not assume that evil doing is the result of mental derangement. Perfectly sane people are capable of doing evil deeds. We are all capable of doing evil deeds. Which is why we must exercise self control

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30 Jul 2011, 6:27 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Fnord wrote:
He was a nut with a gun, a grudge, and easy access to his victims - a classic case of Means, Motive, and Opportunity.

And no one saw it coming, even after he posted his "Manifesto".


He is as sane as your or I. However his working assumptions are a lot different from mine and I imagine a lot different from yours.

Do not assume that evil doing is the result of mental derangement. Perfectly sane people are capable of doing evil deeds. We are all capable of doing evil deeds. Which is why we must exercise self control

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I am going to make a thread on this subject - the debate between evil and insanity. I think from an ethical perspective, it is extremely important.



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30 Jul 2011, 6:39 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
Oh, and since Muslim massacres are more successful in numbers, we should totally not consider wing massacres as bad.


Breivik is just incompetent is all.

Nichols built a bomb with half the mass and twice the yield.



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30 Jul 2011, 7:04 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Fnord wrote:
He was a nut with a gun, a grudge, and easy access to his victims - a classic case of Means, Motive, and Opportunity.

And no one saw it coming, even after he posted his "Manifesto".


He is as sane as your or I. However his working assumptions are a lot different from mine and I imagine a lot different from yours.

Do not assume that evil doing is the result of mental derangement. Perfectly sane people are capable of doing evil deeds. We are all capable of doing evil deeds. Which is why we must exercise self control

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How can a materialist mechanist have a category "evil"?