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16 Aug 2011, 3:37 pm

http://www.cracked.com/article_19339_th ... afety.html

Crazy, crazy, crazy. Homeschooling is looking better every day.


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16 Aug 2011, 3:56 pm

For crying out loud, that's insane. 50 years from now we'll be required to implant chips so that kids can have their voices turned off if they speak out of turn.
Yes, that's hyperbole, but...!
Thankfully, strip-searching 13 year old girls for advil is at least off limits.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124593034315253301.html

zero-tolerance policies in general seem to lead to profound stupidities - kids with lemonade stands fined for operating businesses without a license, kicked out of class for pastel plastic squirt guns, etc.
http://www.overcriminalized.com/CaseStu ... e-Two.aspx



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16 Aug 2011, 4:17 pm

I remember back in middle school I got picked up by TABS(Truancy Abatement and Burglary Suppression) which basically were a bunch of police that drove around in the general vicinity of schools looking for young people in police wagons. They saw me walking to school late one day and decided to stop me and apparently I wasn't be cooperative enough so they handcuffed me and threatened to mace me if I didn't stop resisting.(Resisting apparently is asking why they are stopping me and why are they handcuffing me) Mind you, I was like 12 and these officers all were like 6'4" roidragers. Throw me into the back of this police wagon which had like 12 other kids in there, had to move someone to the middle part on the floor between the benches since I couldn't sit on the floor in handcuffs. Apparently they picked up anybody that even looked like they might be school age even if they were over 18 if they did not have an ID saying otherwise. Whole thing was ridiculous. Gotta get you use to living in the police state tho I guess.



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16 Aug 2011, 8:08 pm

That's ridiculous. Sadly this kind of crap seems to be happening everywhere now. :?



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16 Aug 2011, 9:37 pm

Wow, they even mentioned the Daylight Rule--that is the dumbest rule any school of mine has ever enforced. In my 7th grade English class, two students had to get special permission for physical contact while acting in a skit that the teacher assigned.

The actual text of that "no contact" rule goes something like this:

"At any given point in time, daylight must be able to hit any point on the student's body. Physical contact that blocks this potential for daylight is prohibited."

Not only did the school use this as a reason to have windows in every room in the building (which is arguably a good thing), but it also raises the question of how clothing does not in fact break the Daylight Rule. But following the Daylight Rule verbatim would violate the already strict school dress code. My friends and I had a lot of discussions about the implications of this paradox. =D

And that rule wasn't just in Fairfax Middle School, but also in every middle school in Fairfax County. And a few in the surrounding counties.



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16 Aug 2011, 11:39 pm

Being that my daughter's autistic (Pervasive Developmental Delay - Not Otherwise Specified, or PDD-NOS for short), she requires special education to help her catch up with her peers, and become a functioning member of society, provided by the kind of special ed teachers with the training to accomplish that. I'm afraid my wife and I would be out of our element if her special needs required we take the helm.

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17 Aug 2011, 11:40 am

Jumpsuits and fines ...

... just preparing them for the real world, eh?!


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17 Aug 2011, 12:03 pm

Argh, paranoia. Perhaps kids should be legally allowed to bear firearms so they can tell school administrators where to put their policies. (Not seriously, but the policies of paranoia are just plain dumb.)



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17 Aug 2011, 3:51 pm

LKL wrote:
For crying out loud, that's insane. 50 years from now we'll be required to implant chips so that kids can have their voices turned off if they speak out of turn.
Yes, that's hyperbole, but...!


no, its not hyperbole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ots4zUQZg8

you can read it yourself, its already in the legislation.



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17 Aug 2011, 4:38 pm

Zero tolerance policies result from the staff of a school not being able to exercise good judgement on what is breaking a reasonable policy or not. They are protection from lawsuits due to the staff's inability of good judgement.

When it comes to a zero tolerance policy for touch, the reasoning goes something like this:

"Johnny touched Mary on the butt. He kept doing it, and due to the large volume of children the staff had to watch or the staff were just lazy, it went unnoticed, unreported, and unaddressed. After a week of this Mary told her parents, and her parents decided to sue the school for not protecting their daughter.

After loosing this lawsuit, the school decided it would be easier to manage a playground of children where children did not touch each other at all. So if someone touched another, it would be very easy to spot and report.

It's too bad that if Mary only knew to tell the supervisors or that the supervisors actually looked harder, that this could have all been avoided."



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18 Aug 2011, 11:28 pm

Dox47 wrote:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19339_the-6-dumbest-things-schools-are-doing-in-name-safety.html

Crazy, crazy, crazy. Homeschooling is looking better every day.


Haven't seen any policies like those at any of our local schools. People here aren't THAT nuts, thankfully.


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19 Aug 2011, 1:07 am

well...........

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students are incapable of understanding that there is a difference between a congratulatory high-five between two friends and a punch to the face.

I kinda agree with that.