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21 Aug 2011, 7:43 pm

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the dream act and amnesty would be good for America as most of them are already pretty American in most aspects except for their citizenship status, the same with closing the border off with snipers and special ops until we can afford a puppet government in Mexico to fix their s***, then we can add them to the US (Along with Canada to form the United States of North America (USNA)) keep our constitution and DC as our capital.


A better idea is we prosecute the people in the ATF whom were supervising Operation Fast and Furious, and prosecute the upper levels of the DoJ for their roles, and if it goes all the way to the Presidency, I suggest we start articles of impeachment.



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22 Aug 2011, 1:01 am

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the dream act and amnesty would be good for America as most of them are already pretty American in most aspects except for their citizenship status, the same with closing the border off with snipers and special ops until we can afford a puppet government in Mexico to fix their s***, then we can add them to the US (Along with Canada to form the United States of North America (USNA)) keep our constitution and DC as our capital.

Mexico is a poison pill to our society. We'd do best to quarantine it.


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22 Aug 2011, 8:13 am

DW_a_mom wrote:
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Illegal immigrants don't vote.
LMAO!! !! !! Wow hahaha I'm dying


Got any evidence that they vote?
Don't ask me, I wasn't laughing at Orwell. I was laughing at the fact that he had to resort to pointing out such an obvious fact.

It's bizarre that people seem to think Mexicans just walk into polling locations and vote without being asked to show identification. I am a native-born American and white as they come, and in 2008 I needed my original Social Security card and birth certificate with me at the polling place before they would let me vote. Now, granted, they didn't ask for my long-form birth certificate, but given the hoops I had to jump through I have to suspect the rate of successful voter fraud is relatively low.


Illegals generally have no form of ID at all. If I want to avoid hiring an illegal for gardening or housework it is as simple as telling the prospect that I want a copy of their driver's license for my records. Suddenly they are too busy to take the job.

Inuyasha, you've got to get down on the streets and stop listening to pundits and exaggerators.


Um, an illegal can get 100% authentic "fake docs" for about $500 in most any state. There's always someone willing to hook them up, so no, your idea that they have no ID would only work on those too lazy to get their papers squared away.



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22 Aug 2011, 8:53 am

Hah, if they can pay 500 USD so easily they are more economically productive than the average citizen anyway.


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22 Aug 2011, 10:22 am

zer0netgain wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Orwell wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
blauSamstag wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Illegal immigrants don't vote.
LMAO!! !! !! Wow hahaha I'm dying


Got any evidence that they vote?
Don't ask me, I wasn't laughing at Orwell. I was laughing at the fact that he had to resort to pointing out such an obvious fact.

It's bizarre that people seem to think Mexicans just walk into polling locations and vote without being asked to show identification. I am a native-born American and white as they come, and in 2008 I needed my original Social Security card and birth certificate with me at the polling place before they would let me vote. Now, granted, they didn't ask for my long-form birth certificate, but given the hoops I had to jump through I have to suspect the rate of successful voter fraud is relatively low.


Illegals generally have no form of ID at all. If I want to avoid hiring an illegal for gardening or housework it is as simple as telling the prospect that I want a copy of their driver's license for my records. Suddenly they are too busy to take the job.

Inuyasha, you've got to get down on the streets and stop listening to pundits and exaggerators.


Um, an illegal can get 100% authentic "fake docs" for about $500 in most any state. There's always someone willing to hook them up, so no, your idea that they have no ID would only work on those too lazy to get their papers squared away.

They can get fake birth certificates and social security cards too? Because I needed all of those in order to vote.


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22 Aug 2011, 10:26 am

Orwell wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Orwell wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
blauSamstag wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Illegal immigrants don't vote.
LMAO!! !! !! Wow hahaha I'm dying


Got any evidence that they vote?
Don't ask me, I wasn't laughing at Orwell. I was laughing at the fact that he had to resort to pointing out such an obvious fact.

It's bizarre that people seem to think Mexicans just walk into polling locations and vote without being asked to show identification. I am a native-born American and white as they come, and in 2008 I needed my original Social Security card and birth certificate with me at the polling place before they would let me vote. Now, granted, they didn't ask for my long-form birth certificate, but given the hoops I had to jump through I have to suspect the rate of successful voter fraud is relatively low.


Illegals generally have no form of ID at all. If I want to avoid hiring an illegal for gardening or housework it is as simple as telling the prospect that I want a copy of their driver's license for my records. Suddenly they are too busy to take the job.

Inuyasha, you've got to get down on the streets and stop listening to pundits and exaggerators.


Um, an illegal can get 100% authentic "fake docs" for about $500 in most any state. There's always someone willing to hook them up, so no, your idea that they have no ID would only work on those too lazy to get their papers squared away.

They can get fake birth certificates and social security cards too? Because I needed all of those in order to vote.


Huh? I only needed my Driver's License and voter registration card. I had to have my birth certificate and social security card to get my ID though. Also yeah they can get fraudulent social security numbers too.



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22 Aug 2011, 10:36 am

zer0netgain wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Orwell wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
blauSamstag wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Illegal immigrants don't vote.
LMAO!! !! !! Wow hahaha I'm dying


Got any evidence that they vote?
Don't ask me, I wasn't laughing at Orwell. I was laughing at the fact that he had to resort to pointing out such an obvious fact.

It's bizarre that people seem to think Mexicans just walk into polling locations and vote without being asked to show identification. I am a native-born American and white as they come, and in 2008 I needed my original Social Security card and birth certificate with me at the polling place before they would let me vote. Now, granted, they didn't ask for my long-form birth certificate, but given the hoops I had to jump through I have to suspect the rate of successful voter fraud is relatively low.


Illegals generally have no form of ID at all. If I want to avoid hiring an illegal for gardening or housework it is as simple as telling the prospect that I want a copy of their driver's license for my records. Suddenly they are too busy to take the job.

Inuyasha, you've got to get down on the streets and stop listening to pundits and exaggerators.


Um, an illegal can get 100% authentic "fake docs" for about $500 in most any state. There's always someone willing to hook them up, so no, your idea that they have no ID would only work on those too lazy to get their papers squared away.


Too lazy???? Do you know how these people LIVE around here? You think they HAVE $500??? If they did, it would be in envelope to a starving relative still in Mexico.

AND what you are suggesting involves dealing with some pretty shady characters. Breaking more laws. It is one thing to cross a border out of desperation, and another to start breaking laws right and left in ways that can't be justified by need alone.

I stand by what I said. The vast majority hold no ID of any sort.

I go to church with these people. Our kids go to school together.


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22 Aug 2011, 12:33 pm

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Excuse me, but I happen to be part Native American, I have cousins that have family whom live in Mexico, I have no problem with legal immigration, I have a problem when people break the law by entering the country illegally.


I agree with this. ^

I disagree with a president that thinks he was elected as a Czar of Russia.



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22 Aug 2011, 1:37 pm

Conservatives are always telling liberals to "stop whining". They need to stop whining about immigrants.


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22 Aug 2011, 3:41 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Excuse me, but I happen to be part Native American, I have cousins that have family whom live in Mexico, I have no problem with legal immigration, I have a problem when people break the law by entering the country illegally.

Wait a moment... what the hell does being part Native American have to do with your stance on immigration?

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I disagree with a president that thinks he was elected as a Czar of Russia.

Have you not been paying attention to the past two and a half years? Obama has spent every minute trying desperately to compromise with the Republicans on every single issue. At what point have you seen autocratic behavior on his part? He is pathetically weak compared to almost any previous President in our history.


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22 Aug 2011, 3:48 pm

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Conservatives are always telling liberals to "stop whining". They need to stop whining about immigrants.
It's hilarious how whining is supposed to be exclusively one-sided.



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22 Aug 2011, 4:58 pm

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At what point have you seen autocratic behavior on his part? He is pathetically weak compared to almost any previous President in our history.


http://www.ice.gov/doclib/secure-commun ... n-memo.pdf

That's just one example. Can't pass a law through legal means? He does it anyway through executive order.

Sieg Heil Obama!



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22 Aug 2011, 5:09 pm

^Comparing Obama to Hitler is stepping way over the boundary. If he actually were like Hitler, there would be government agents escorting you to a death camp right about now.


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22 Aug 2011, 5:26 pm

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^Comparing Obama to Hitler is stepping way over the boundary. If he actually were like Hitler, there would be government agents escorting you to a death camp right about now.


I don't see why not. He's a charismatic speaker and he's doing a great job destroying the country and making enemies out of every other country. I see a parallel.



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22 Aug 2011, 5:27 pm

You know, this thread really makes me think the case for deportation is stronger than I originally thought. America needs to get rid of it's dead weight that only exists to drain the system of vitality, and we need to keep the people who actually can make America great. America needs to start deporting conservatives and giving it's Mexican immigrants citizenship.



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22 Aug 2011, 5:34 pm

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You know, this thread really makes me think the case for deportation is stronger than I originally thought. America needs to get rid of it's dead weight that only exists to drain the system of vitality, and we need to keep the people who actually can make America great. America needs to start deporting conservatives and giving it's Mexican immigrants citizenship.


Mmm, Sarcasm.

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