Animal *Farm by George Orwell

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08 Sep 2011, 1:56 am

I just read it for the first time...

what do you all think of the book?

I would recomend it....though it wasn't the best book it was a decent read.

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08 Sep 2011, 2:59 am

Do you mean "Animal Farm"?

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08 Sep 2011, 10:43 am

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Do you mean "Animal Farm"?

ops...yes animal farm....sorry it was late and tiredness got the better of me.

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09 Sep 2011, 4:29 am

good book. lots of parallels to today. all animals are equal some animals are just more equal than others. very short book.

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09 Sep 2011, 5:37 am

I liked it. I read it in 1999 or 2000 I think.

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09 Sep 2011, 6:49 am

It is exceptional for subtly installing the corruptions of socialism into young children, but I'd really like there to be a more complex edition of the book that covers more of an economical aspect of Communism in Russia than Animal Farm.

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09 Sep 2011, 7:53 am

It is written like an allegory but it is really a political cartoon.
Very specifically about the soviet union and the Bolshevik cluster f**k.

Old Major is mostly Marx but a little bit Lenin
Snowball is Trotsky.
Napoleon of course is Stalin

Eric Blair (George Orwell) had a personal beef with the Russians.
(they betrayed the Left in the Spanish civil war and had tried to kill him)
Blair fought in a anarchist battalion against the fascists who were trying to overthrow
the Elected Leftist republic.
If we go on a Orwell reading Kick I suggest Homage to Catalonia as the next read.

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09 Sep 2011, 12:10 pm

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alright i will read it.

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09 Sep 2011, 12:23 pm

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Joe Stalin who later became Big Brother in -1984- was a Red fascist thug. It is not wonder Mr. Blaire revolted against the criminal enterprise that communism had become.

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09 Sep 2011, 12:29 pm

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Joe Stalin who later became Big Brother in -1984- was a Red fascist thug. It is not wonder Mr. Blaire revolted against the criminal enterprise that communism had become.

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I think he was always anti-soviet but he got an eyeful of what they were really about in Spain.
It did not stop him from being a ardent socialist and a supporter of labor.
I guess he was a bit brighter than Rand and Mises and did not believe that is one extreme was false
the other had to be true.

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09 Sep 2011, 1:58 pm

animal farm, is an allegory of the russian revolution. the anti-communism was relevant during the era when the soviet union was growing.

from the perspective of now, it's corny and not relevant to our society.

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09 Sep 2011, 2:04 pm

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from the perspective of now, it's corny and not relevant to our society.

I wouldn't say that! It still explains the basic ideology of Communism in a more comprehensible manner than the Communist Manifesto of which many younger children cannot understand.

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09 Sep 2011, 2:08 pm

Well, as a childrens novel to be taught in secondary schools, it's sufficient. But not for adults.

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09 Sep 2011, 2:11 pm

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minervx wrote:

from the perspective of now, it's corny and not relevant to our society.

I wouldn't say that! It still explains the basic ideology of Communism in a more comprehensible manner than the Communist Manifesto of which many younger children cannot understand.

except that is doesn't even address marxism as more than egalitarianism.

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09 Sep 2011, 2:13 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:

Helixstein wrote:

minervx wrote:

from the perspective of now, it's corny and not relevant to our society.

I wouldn't say that! It still explains the basic ideology of Communism in a more comprehensible manner than the Communist Manifesto of which many younger children cannot understand.

except that is doesn't even address marxism as more than egalitarianism.

Political ideologies do not necessarily have to be given a name in order to understand them. Two years ago I studied basic "Communism" primarily through the Animal Farm, and yet, the term Communism was never applied.

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09 Sep 2011, 2:19 pm

Helixstein wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

Helixstein wrote:

minervx wrote:

from the perspective of now, it's corny and not relevant to our society.

I wouldn't say that! It still explains the basic ideology of Communism in a more comprehensible manner than the Communist Manifesto of which many younger children cannot understand.

except that is doesn't even address marxism as more than egalitarianism.

What pray tell is communism?

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