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13 Sep 2011, 9:37 am

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13 Sep 2011, 2:01 pm

I don't know, maybe the bet way to discredit teapartiers is to let them speak for themselves.



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13 Sep 2011, 3:46 pm

the olbernann, maddow, and larry king live show used to be the only non-Fox shows in the top10. HeadlineNews(CNN) and American Mourning(CNN) + Mourning Joe(MSNBC) = the amount of people who tune into Fox And Friends. Two enormous media outlets, one left of center and the other depending on controversy and the mood of the nation.

This is all for ratings. CNN fell greatly after Obama took office as it was no longer liberal or conservative enough for a very divided country. It is starving with only a quarter of all viewership. This isn't about promoting TeaParty views, this is about not sucking so much.

The media is liberal not because everyone wants to watch Fox. The media is liberal because Fox is a standalone in its views and the majority of other outlets that have political commentary tend to express left-of-center opinions 3 quarters of the time, and way more often then they do right-of-center opinions. It is actually unfortunate that there is only one major conservative network on television in such a conservative country.


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13 Sep 2011, 3:49 pm

The far right wing totally dominates AM radio and it is said we have a liberal media?



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13 Sep 2011, 5:43 pm

Few people watch televised news these days, compared to the days when the USA had three television networks and there was major competition between Tom Brokaw, Dan Rather and (whoever else was on).

Nowadays, people have a lot more entertainment options (such as writing on internet message boards).

Crackpots now tune in to Fox News.



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13 Sep 2011, 5:51 pm

pandabear wrote:
Few people watch televised news these days, compared to the days when the USA had three television networks and there was major competition between Tom Brokaw, Dan Rather and (whoever else was on).

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Whoever else was on? How can you forget the greatest news anchor ever?

Walter Cronkite

I adored him when I was a kid (he was the anchor throughout my childhood). I have no idea what his political affiliation was. It didn't matter. I just knew that when he said and that's the way it is that in fact that was the way it was.

Is there any anchor today who can come anywhere near his stature? None of them.



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13 Sep 2011, 5:57 pm

Conservatives blame Walter Cronkite for losing the Vietnam War.



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13 Sep 2011, 6:03 pm

This is why Fox News wins at ratings. Politically motivated young people (who tend to be more liberal) don't tune into the boob tube to get their news anymore, they go online. Meanwhile old fart conservatives who don't know how to use a computer tune in exclusively to Fox News.



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13 Sep 2011, 6:04 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
The far right wing totally dominates AM radio and it is said we have a liberal media?


Wow, there's an achievement. AM radio. I've built an AM transmitter before. It's not like many people ever listen to the radio anymore, certainly not AM over FM.



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13 Sep 2011, 6:19 pm

A lot of blue collar workers listen to AM radio while driving to work.



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13 Sep 2011, 6:26 pm

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A lot of blue collar workers listen to AM radio while driving to work.


Really? A lot of store clerks and cooks at restaurants have FM radio muttering on in the background playing the latest Lady Gaga crap. At construction sites that I've been to, blue collar workers often either have Spanish Polka or Oldies stations playing.



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13 Sep 2011, 6:34 pm

I used to listen to a lot of conservative AM radio but I couldn't stand to listen to the hate after a while.



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13 Sep 2011, 6:48 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
I used to listen to a lot of conservative AM radio but I couldn't stand to listen to the hate after a while.


Right, the hate. I suppose for you the non-conservative media outlets which refer to conservatives as "crackers", "nutters", "lunatics", "fanatics", "extremists", "racists for disliking Obama", and all the rest of the appellations they copiously provide to anyone opposed to their own agendas doesn't have to do anything with hatred now does it?



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14 Sep 2011, 12:01 am

Usually conservatives have a monopoly when it comes to "hot talk". But I suppose the left wing Angela Davis can also give the hot talk.



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14 Sep 2011, 12:47 am

marshall wrote:
This is why Fox News wins at ratings. Politically motivated young people (who tend to be more liberal) don't tune into the boob tube to get their news anymore, they go online. Meanwhile old fart conservatives who don't know how to use a computer tune in exclusively to Fox News.


they also not listen to radio or read newspapers too. WSJ is the most read newspaper in the country, and one of the best conservative editorials there is.

it took a lot for Obama to get elected... even though young people tend to be liberal, they grow up and become evenly split between the two parties(though the political paradigm shifting does skew what is considered liberal/conservative).

Elections reheld, a larger portion of young people would have voted for McCain, and it wouldn't be 2/3's for Obama. He would still have won that loyal demographic but by much smaller margins.


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14 Sep 2011, 1:02 am

androbot2084 wrote:
The far right wing totally dominates AM radio and it is said we have a liberal media?


maybe they just make better writers... they do dominate print journalism since it is their opinions that are more often published by every major newspaper. I don't know, there has to be a reason why their employed far more by television and journalism media, especially since they don't represent the electorate at all.

It may be the Fox-News effect. Because the WSJ is the only legitimately conservative newspaper on newsstands, it is the most bought, but that doesn't mean that print journalism has a conservative bent as the LA Times, NY Times, Oregonian, SeattlePI, Miami Herold, Boston Globe, Chicago Sun-Times, and company tend to publish far more left of center opinions and publish news through a leftist lens then they do conservative opinions. Their leftist bent may also be the reason that their circulation has been declining immensely over the past decade, a good many being bought out and consolidated with other papers, budgets slashed, and a great many writers laid off.


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