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08 Sep 2011, 6:50 pm

If a tomato is a fruit, is ketchup just a smoothie?



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09 Sep 2011, 12:02 am

Smoothies need ice.

I was actually thinking about this the other day. More precisely, since ketchup (catsup?) is formulated with spices it's more along the lines of a sauce.



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09 Sep 2011, 12:30 am

One Supreme Court Case involving tomatoes is the 1893 case Nix v. Hedden, holding that a tomato is a vegetable in terms of being taxable as an imported vegetable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nix_v._Hedden http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/g ... &invol=304

But, effective on May 13, 2010, a Federal Order makes the requirement "that shipments of tomato fruit from affected countries meet...."So, shipments of the tomato vegetable doesn't have to meet the requirement, so let anybody just try to get by Customs with this explanation from the Supreme Court. http://www.aphis.usda.gov/import_export ... -28-10.pdf

One quagmire with Corn-Seed Traits is from June 30, 2010: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-3 ... raits.html

The "resolved case" is: http://www.lexisone.com/lx1/caselaw/fre ... =FCLOWThis case is relevant to marijuana because of the government's patent on marijuana, and the technique of exploiting bacterium that produces toxic proteins to certain insects, opening the prospects of doing the same with marijuana and Humans, much like "denatured" alcohol, but corrupting the marijuana genome permanently in biological "drug wars".

Dupont and de-dupont: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases ... 60897.html

The "bottle" issue use to be somewhere around: http://www.fda.gov/Food/FoodSafety/Reta ... 089124.htm

The Great Reagan Debate over nutrition is at: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/rea ... -vegetable

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200 ... ries_x.htm

"Less than Words Can Say" by Richard Mitchell (1979), Chapter 12, Pages 142-155, clarifies "Plain English". Politicians to Tea Party "patriots" are "delighted, actually, whenever they can find a cause with a high yield of profit and very little overhead. Plain English is just such a cause.": http://www.sourcetext.com/grammarian/le ... say/12.htm

"Ugly" English "doesn't need simplification; it needs simply to be kept pretty much out of sight, lest it provide some plain English fanatics with what they think is a useful example." But, "to answer, before the fact, any imaginable questions that might be asked in a court of law", covers the tricks of oversimplification used in flim-flam.

Using Brand names in "Hobo-speak" is used in sting operations, to use in inside organizational plants, to give possible cover of legitimacy on the surface: http://www.galtak.com/nipples.htm versus the urban dictionary.The "noise" frustrates legitimacy: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 6041709487

Since Ketchup might include tomatoes, and tomatoes can be either vegetables or fruits by need, in Reagan-Speak, Ketchup can be either too! The word battle with the bottle is just another step to be exploited in the dispense and for the particular political need at the moment in the great nutrition and safety battle with health.

I have yet to file a federal lawsuit involving ketchup smoothies, but I think some Tea Party smoothies may have.

Tadzio



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10 Sep 2011, 11:08 am

Tadzio wrote:
One Supreme Court Case involving tomatoes is the 1893 case Nix v. Hedden, holding that a tomato is a vegetable in terms of being taxable as an imported vegetable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nix_v._Hedden http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/g ... &invol=304

But, effective on May 13, 2010, a Federal Order makes the requirement "that shipments of tomato fruit from affected countries meet...."So, shipments of the tomato vegetable doesn't have to meet the requirement, so let anybody just try to get by Customs with this explanation from the Supreme Court. http://www.aphis.usda.gov/import_export ... -28-10.pdf

One quagmire with Corn-Seed Traits is from June 30, 2010: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-3 ... raits.html

The "resolved case" is: http://www.lexisone.com/lx1/caselaw/fre ... =FCLOWThis case is relevant to marijuana because of the government's patent on marijuana, and the technique of exploiting bacterium that produces toxic proteins to certain insects, opening the prospects of doing the same with marijuana and Humans, much like "denatured" alcohol, but corrupting the marijuana genome permanently in biological "drug wars".

Dupont and de-dupont: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases ... 60897.html

The "bottle" issue use to be somewhere around: http://www.fda.gov/Food/FoodSafety/Reta ... 089124.htm

The Great Reagan Debate over nutrition is at: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/rea ... -vegetable

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200 ... ries_x.htm

"Less than Words Can Say" by Richard Mitchell (1979), Chapter 12, Pages 142-155, clarifies "Plain English". Politicians to Tea Party "patriots" are "delighted, actually, whenever they can find a cause with a high yield of profit and very little overhead. Plain English is just such a cause.": http://www.sourcetext.com/grammarian/le ... say/12.htm

"Ugly" English "doesn't need simplification; it needs simply to be kept pretty much out of sight, lest it provide some plain English fanatics with what they think is a useful example." But, "to answer, before the fact, any imaginable questions that might be asked in a court of law", covers the tricks of oversimplification used in flim-flam.

Using Brand names in "Hobo-speak" is used in sting operations, to use in inside organizational plants, to give possible cover of legitimacy on the surface: http://www.galtak.com/nipples.htm versus the urban dictionary.The "noise" frustrates legitimacy: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 6041709487

Since Ketchup might include tomatoes, and tomatoes can be either vegetables or fruits by need, in Reagan-Speak, Ketchup can be either too! The word battle with the bottle is just another step to be exploited in the dispense and for the particular political need at the moment in the great nutrition and safety battle with health.

I have yet to file a federal lawsuit involving ketchup smoothies, but I think some Tea Party smoothies may have.

Tadzio


Does it not strike you as absurd that government is involved with food at all. If the government ran our farms we would shortly starve to death.

ruveyn



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10 Sep 2011, 2:47 pm

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10 Sep 2011, 11:36 pm

ruveyn said:
"Does it not strike you as absurd that government is involved with food at all. If the government ran our farms we would shortly starve to death."

Which definition of "government" are you using? Do you mean that group known as the "fondling fathers" with that Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, Hamilton, etc.? The Whiskey Rebellion will need additional editing if in the affirminative for the Great Seal farmers.

Please don't be so sour about your hypothecated deregulated jar of pickles with that grayish green putrid mouse corpse that didn't exactly add a taste like oak to his jar mates, but mates with at least having an additional Ayn Rand essence of another Ron Paul. I hope that doesn't offend the spirit of King Tutankhamun and other fellows in the now deregulated Valley of the Kings.

Here's to another V.P. Quayle Tomatoe!! ! There's no very high potato head IQ at The Fountainhead.

Tadzio

P.S. PandaBear: The Free Market's "Don't Touch Me Tomatoes!", in the current depression, with the twice the price marketing policy, might be the reason for so many currently limp USA domestic Patriotic Freedom Fries without British tomato ketchup.



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11 Sep 2011, 5:55 pm

its a peace of earth seperated by natural proces that is full of nutrients and is red to alow us to see that it is seperated.