Americans Again Call for Compromise in Washington

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28 Sep 2011, 1:31 pm

Just a little Gallup poll that backs up my idea that the Idea of a ideological left in america
is a bit overstated. So Anti-communists take a sip of tea the reds are not under your beds. :lol:
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28 Sep 2011, 2:01 pm

Interesting poll. It doesn't come out as a suprise that most right-wing affiliated people will stick to their beliefs, however misguided they are. :roll:



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28 Sep 2011, 2:09 pm

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Interesting poll. It doesn't come out as a suprise that most right-wing affiliated people will stick to their beliefs, however misguided they are. :roll:


it gives some insight into who is really causing government shutdown "crises".
to me the dynamic in america is the right vs. the moderates.
the poll points to me being right or ... errm correct.


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28 Sep 2011, 2:31 pm

It's not a fair compromise if you're further away from where you want to be after it, it completely defeats the point.



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28 Sep 2011, 2:41 pm

Does this surprise anyone? Republican Congressman are coerced into taking an oath of loyalty to their party. And Obama overcompromises on absolutely everything. Give me 5 minutes and I bet I could get him to admit he's a white man.



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28 Sep 2011, 2:47 pm

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It's not a fair compromise if you're further away from where you want to be after it, it completely defeats the point.


I guess but is fair the right word?


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28 Sep 2011, 2:48 pm

If you owed Obama fifty bucks, he would pay you five and call it even. :lol:



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28 Sep 2011, 2:51 pm

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If you owed Obama fifty bucks, he would pay you five and call it even. :lol:


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28 Sep 2011, 10:51 pm

yes, following what was the most partisan year in American politics (2010)

http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine ... n-20110224

where democrats had the vote-count to use and abuse, it has further deepened the ideological trenches and the only group on that list whose opinions are worth any observation is the independents.

also the liberal is just identify's with that labeling. they don't like labels period and don't want to be viewed as orthodox, dogmatic, or archaic.

I would even say the independent column(which polling after polling shows they have had a conservative shift of heart) is a reaction to an era of Liberal dominance, first with the Democrat sweeps of 2006, capped with the democratic victory over the white house in 2008.


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28 Sep 2011, 10:57 pm

MarketAndChurch wrote:
yes, following what was the most partisan year in American politics (2010)

http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine ... n-20110224

where democrats had the vote-count to use and abuse, it has further deepened the ideological trenches and the only group on that list whose opinions are worth any observation is the independents.

also the liberal is just identify's with that labeling. they don't like labels period and don't want to be viewed as orthodox, dogmatic, or archaic.

I would even say the independent column(which polling after polling shows they have had a conservative shift of heart) is a reaction to an era of Liberal dominance, first with the Democrat sweeps of 2006, capped with the democratic victory over the white house in 2008.


but liberal dominance should be read as moderate dominance.


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28 Sep 2011, 11:40 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
MarketAndChurch wrote:
yes, following what was the most partisan year in American politics (2010)

http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine ... n-20110224

where democrats had the vote-count to use and abuse, it has further deepened the ideological trenches and the only group on that list whose opinions are worth any observation is the independents.

also the liberal is just identify's with that labeling. they don't like labels period and don't want to be viewed as orthodox, dogmatic, or archaic.

I would even say the independent column(which polling after polling shows they have had a conservative shift of heart) is a reaction to an era of Liberal dominance, first with the Democrat sweeps of 2006, capped with the democratic victory over the white house in 2008.


but liberal dominance should be read as moderate dominance.


yes, for an era, as a reaction to the George Bush Neo-conservative / evangelical era, liberal dominance is due to moderate conservative and moderates(otherwise known as independents) siding with liberals. That is a fair read of 2004 through 2009.

But it took Democrats coming to center to win them over(as clearly evident in all of the blue-dogs getting elected)... it wasn't a buying into universal health care, high density living, unionization, fast-trains, or carbon-taxes on industry that many Democrats misread then and continue to misread now. Maybe moderate conservative/liberals or the political center don't know well what's best for them, but it is clear that the Democrats case for those issues have not been accepted by them.


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28 Sep 2011, 11:52 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
YippySkippy wrote:
If you owed Obama fifty bucks, he would pay you five and call it even. :lol:


+1


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29 Sep 2011, 1:22 am

JakobVirgil wrote:
MarketAndChurch wrote:
yes, following what was the most partisan year in American politics (2010)

http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine ... n-20110224

where democrats had the vote-count to use and abuse, it has further deepened the ideological trenches and the only group on that list whose opinions are worth any observation is the independents.

also the liberal is just identify's with that labeling. they don't like labels period and don't want to be viewed as orthodox, dogmatic, or archaic.

I would even say the independent column(which polling after polling shows they have had a conservative shift of heart) is a reaction to an era of Liberal dominance, first with the Democrat sweeps of 2006, capped with the democratic victory over the white house in 2008.


but liberal dominance should be read as moderate dominance.


Sorry but the lunatics from the local insane asylum are hardly moderate dominance, we're just lucky we got some rational people in there to help prevent them from doing even more damage. (Yeah I'm calling Democrats like Harry Reid, Pelosi, and Obama lunatics)



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29 Sep 2011, 7:13 am

Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
MarketAndChurch wrote:
yes, following what was the most partisan year in American politics (2010)

http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine ... n-20110224

where democrats had the vote-count to use and abuse, it has further deepened the ideological trenches and the only group on that list whose opinions are worth any observation is the independents.

also the liberal is just identify's with that labeling. they don't like labels period and don't want to be viewed as orthodox, dogmatic, or archaic.

I would even say the independent column(which polling after polling shows they have had a conservative shift of heart) is a reaction to an era of Liberal dominance, first with the Democrat sweeps of 2006, capped with the democratic victory over the white house in 2008.


but liberal dominance should be read as moderate dominance.


Sorry but the lunatics from the local insane asylum are hardly moderate dominance, we're just lucky we got some rational people in there to help prevent them from doing even more damage. (Yeah I'm calling Democrats like Harry Reid, Pelosi, and Obama lunatics)


The poll sorta belies the idea that the dems are anything but compromisers so I am gunna chalk that comment up to
ignorance and blind partisanship. The idea that there is a strong "liberal" force or agenda in America is just not true.
read the poll and come back with big boy answers.


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