California - no new textbooks without LGBT history?

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http://articles.sfgate.com/2011-07-15/n ... er-schools

The thing I don't understand: do the same lawmakers forcing this actually have a list of active scientists, inventors, and great public leaders who've been highly relevant and who's omission has unbalanced a proper understanding of history - all due to their preference or the way they dressed? If not, and if they can't come up with such figures in history, what's going to happen to these textbooks?

California legislators should probably spend more time working out a way of actually buying textbooks.

Good question. Since being out as being somewhere in the LGBT group is a very recent phenomenon, there will have to be an inordinate amount of guesswork and assumptions when deciding who was even if it went unstated. All that guesswork and assuming will in itself be very controversial and the whole project will be abandoned (my guess).

lol good point

Stuff like this is a big part of the reason why our nation's young people are so historically ignorant. Gotta teach everybody's agenda never mind kids have no idea what's in the constitution or who our founding father's were. The civil rights struggle was a tremendously important time in our country's history but it wasn't the only time. Martin Luther King Jr. was an amazing man but from what I learned in school, you would of thought he was the single most important man in human history.

All right, class, please open your phone browsers to the wikipedia page on California history. Tommy, have your phone read the text aloud.

Wiki better meet the LGBT quota.

I believe something like that will cause a snowball effect but I am bi-gender so I do not see whats wrong with teaching LGBT history.

Absolutely nothing, just that its probably better merrited for its own textbooks or lesson plans - better yet, just strengthen it in social studies classes. To force it back past the turn of the 20th century, unless I'm greatly miseducated, would be a near impossible feat.

I might be missing great LGBT generals, world leaders, artists, inventors (with exception of Leonarde D'Vinci and Michaelangelo among possible others already included). In ernest if the Civil War was won by, rather than Ulysses Grant, a general in the Union army who was transgender and never made the history books - I'd like to know everything I can about this person simply because, they'd be an incredibly salient figure to the course of dynamics back then and to skip over them would serve a great injustice not only to education but as well the wiping clean of all their military strategies, campaigns, and the ideas that made them a great general.

Their are quite a few great LGBT actors in the world today but I agree with all that you are saying do not forget america writes its own history and leaves things out that do not go with the status quo.

If major achievements in military history, politics, philosophy, science, medical, or invention are getting waxed over or improperly attributed to people in order to hide the fact that certain great people existed then I completely agree - its an injustice to education and culture and should be seen that way by anyone regardless of their political stance.

BTW, I'm not at all doubting LGBT contribution to history and innovation, just that I do doubt their omission from textbooks somewhat. Most of these people were living in times where people simply didn't divulge that kind of information about themselves.

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I think they where left out due to the fact that some where gay lesbien ect its not right love isn't abot gender.

I hope they don't bother speculating on the sexual orientation of historical figures. The fact Lincoln might of shared a bed with a man at one time is irrelevant to what he accomplished in his life. That or raise the importance of minor figures for the sake of diversity. If it's relevant teach it, if not then don't.

Well that's the point. We don't know if important historical figures were left out or replaced because in certain time periods non-heterosexuality was not divulged.

I also hope whoever composes the textbooks doesn't start speculating or even injecting doubt, as that would distract from why these people are remembered (their accomplishments, not with whom they shared their bed).

Alexander von Humboldt was almost certainly gay - there's one.

Stuff like this is a very cogent argument against government run education (so-called). The government run illiteracy mills turn out obedient tax payers who do not think effectively.

ruveyn

QUOTA??? That's political indoctrination!