Wicca and Druidry
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The two main streams of "British' Paganism are Wicca and Druidry. Although both traditions draw their inspiration from past ages, much of their contemporary practice has evolved very recently - from the eighteenth century for Druidry, from the 1940s onwards for Wicca. The eighteenth century saw the development of Druid ceremony, much of it articulated by Iolo Morganwg, and in the twentieth century the MacGregor-Reids and Ross Nichols gave further inspiration and form to Druid ceremony and thought, while Gerald Gardner proved the catalyst for the rebirth (or birth, depending on your opinion) of Wicca. Since Wicca and Druidry share so much in common, it is natural to wonder whether they were originally one and the same, only developing later in different directions. Gerald Gardner, in The Meaning of Witchcraft (1959) wrote "The great question is, were the witches and the Druids members of the same cult?.....Personally, I think they were not; the witch cult was the religion of the soil, as it were, and the Druids were the more aristocratic religion..." At a Pagan Federation conference and then later in The Druid Way (1993) I asked Gardner's question again, and quoted various authors' views on the subject.
Christina Oakley's article continues the debate, and her conclusion tallies with Gardner's: Wicca and Druidry have different histories. They certainly "feel" different, as Christina Oakley mentions, and I think our Paganism is all the richer for these two vital, distinct and rich traditions growing side by side. Many people, however, are now following both paths, combining them idiosyncratically to suit their own tastes and practises, in the time-honoured slightly anarchical way of modern Paganism. There is value in this, but also, I believe, a danger. The value lies in our being able to develop our own unique path. Paganism, Wicca, Druidry, Shamanism, the Earth Religions - all avoid the problems of the Revealed Religions, which so easily develop into personality cults and dogmatic systems. The eclecticism and anarchy of the former prevent this. And so a creative meeting of Wicca and Druidry is occurring, with some people feeling that the private focus of Wicca fulfils one need, while the more public focus of Druidry fulfils another.
Christina Oakley says 'At the heart of Wicca is the image of the God and Goddess joined in love as one'. Whilst variants of Wicca do not make the Great Rite central, she is speaking here of Traditional British Wicca, whose focus is on the act of union, just as Druidry's focus is on the results of that act: symbolised by the Divine Child, the Mabon, and expressed through the Arts and the Bardic tradition. Thus, the emphasis on the joining of male and female energy in Wicca seems perfectly balanced with the emphasis on the results of that joining in Druidry. So we can see that it is quite possible to follow both Wicca and Druidry, since each fulfils a different need and helps to express a different facet of the self. To return to Gerald Gardner's suggestion, we could say that now we can embrace both traditions because socially we are no longer so constrained, and the person of the soil and the person of culture both need feeding within us. Having said this, it is important to realise the limitations of this argument, since many Wiccans and Druids will quite rightly point to the completeness of their own tradition, which belies any necessity for combination with a complementary path. Even so, the mixing is undoubtedly happening. If you were to visit a non-aligned Pagan ceremony at a festival time, you would almost certainly find yourself participating in a ritual which draws its inspiration and form partly from Wicca and partly from Druidry. Ask Wiccans if they are Druids too, and a good deal will say they are, and vice versa. The question is, are we enriching our traditions or diluting them?
While some contemporary Pagans eclectically blend Wiccan and Druid practice, research is revealing more of the connections that existed in the seminal years of modern Druidry's and Wicca's development - the 1940's and 50's. The influence of the related movements of Woodcraft Chivalry and Naturism of the 20's and 30's, which could be seen as effectively Pagan movements, is only now being explored (see Ronald Hutton's article in Enchante Autumn 1993 and Steve Wilson's article in Aisling 8 (1995)). Both Gerald Gardner and Ross Nichols, founder of the Order of Bards Ovates & Druids, were influenced by these, and we know that Gardner was a member of the Ancient Druid Order (The Druid Way p.57). It has also been suggested that George Watson MacGregor-Reid, Chief of the Ancient Druid Order, was also a member of the famous New Forest coven in 1939 (W.E.Liddell The Pickingill Papers, Capall Bann 1994 ). From conversations with Ross Nichols, and from his writings, I believe that he was probably not an initiated Wiccan (although I cannot be certain of this), but I know that he was highly sympathetic to Wicca and had many Wiccan friends, including Justine Glass, author of Witchcraft, the Sixth Sense and Us (Neville Spearman 1965) and apparently Doreen Valiente. Gardner and Nichols were friends too, and as a result of their exchanges the eightfold Pagan festival cycle was born. (Or reborn, depending on your point of view. For a discussion of the history of this central feature of modern Pagan practice see Steve Wilson's article in Aisling 8 (1995) p.15 which is based partly on detailed research by Ronald Hutton for his forthcoming book on the history of modern paganism The Triumph of the Moon.) Following their discussions, Wiccans incorporated the Solstices and Equinoxes into their celebrations, and Druids incorporated the fire festivals into theirs. That is a tremendous example of cross-fertilisation between the two traditions, and in the last few years we have seen this happening in a wider, though less dramatic form.
Here is a link to the website that I got this information from.
http://www.druidry.org/obod/druid-path/ ... uidry.html
What about Heathenism?
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Makes pretty good sense to me. They've cross-fertilized a lot, have always been allies, and many people have been both Druids and Wiccans, but they do appear to have always been separate movements.
Heathenism, from what I've heard and read of it, seems to make a very serious attempt to rediscover and follow the Northern European (what many people would call 'Norse') path with as much historical accuracy as possible, whereas some 'Northern' paths are less stringent about it - kind of the way the Kemetics, whose way I followed for a year or so, attempt to recreate as historically accurate as possible version of ancient Egyptian religion, whereas some other 'Egyptian' Pagans take certain aspects and ignore others. I think both ways have their pros and cons. A big question of any revival of historic (or prehistoric) spiritual paths is: how authentic can we be in (often) the absence of written records? But that's a whole debate in itself.
Joker, as a Pagan (eclectic) myself, I think it's good that you're interested; too many people from a Judaeo-Christian background judge Pagan religions without trying to understand them. On the historical stuff, Ron Hutton's always a good one to read (he's debunked a lot of the mythology around the origins of Wicca, which is why some Wiccans don't like him much...I say, admit that the mythology is mythology if you want people to take you seriously...)
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Heathenism is a religious practice that belongs to Paganism I find Wicca and Driury very interesting in fact if I wasn't a Judeo Christian I would be a celtic Pagan due to my Irish roots.
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Heathenism, from what I've heard and read of it, seems to make a very serious attempt to rediscover and follow the Northern European (what many people would call 'Norse') path with as much historical accuracy as possible, whereas some 'Northern' paths are less stringent about it - kind of the way the Kemetics, whose way I followed for a year or so, attempt to recreate as historically accurate as possible version of ancient Egyptian religion, whereas some other 'Egyptian' Pagans take certain aspects and ignore others. I think both ways have their pros and cons. A big question of any revival of historic (or prehistoric) spiritual paths is: how authentic can we be in (often) the absence of written records? But that's a whole debate in itself.
Joker, as a Pagan (eclectic) myself, I think it's good that you're interested; too many people from a Judaeo-Christian background judge Pagan religions without trying to understand them. On the historical stuff, Ron Hutton's always a good one to read (he's debunked a lot of the mythology around the origins of Wicca, which is why some Wiccans don't like him much...I say, admit that the mythology is mythology if you want people to take you seriously...)
I have always been interested in Pagan religions mostly Celtic paganism and yes it is true that people of a Judeao Christian background always seem to judge any belief that isn't theirs.
