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I don't care what side you're on, why, oh WHY do folks here ITF and americans in general seem to care so damn much about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? I'm sick to death of hearing about it as I am neither pro nor anti israel or palestine. The american media really puts way too much effort into covering every single thing that goes on there and those who aren't personally involved, why take sides? Discuss....

There are a variety of reasons, not the least of which are the populations of Jews and Palestinians living outside of the region for whom the establishment and security of the respective states is a matter of cultural security.

Further, the prospect of conflict should give pause to anyone in the West. A peaceful resolution of a Palestinian state, with borders that both Palestine and Israel can live with, is a key factor in ongoing stability in the Middle East.

And if peace and stability for a few hundred million people is not a worthwhile goal, in and of itself, then consider the economic impact.

America will always be their to support Israel we are their allys in the middel east it's Israel ve all the other hostile countries that wish them to be destroyed as Americans we will do all we can to protect Israel and lend our support in a time of need.

Don't count on it. Every nation must look primarily to the interests of its own people.

ruveyn

True but not every nation faces the types of threats that Israel does every day from hostile Muslim countries.

Isn't that their problem and not ours?

ruveyn

It is both of are problems now if that moron does bring home the troops next year we will get attacked again like we where on 9/11

Oh, but haven't you listened to Pat Robertson and that Hagee guy?
We have to stay on God's side for when Christ returns to Jerusalem to usher in the rapture!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

According to early christianity we need to tear down a mosque then rebuild a temple in its place.

And the rapture is supposed to happen befor Christ returns

I don't think the New Testament says anything about destroying any Masque, as Islam didn't even exist till the 7th century.
And as a mainline Protestant (Lutheran to be exact), I don't believe in the rapture.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Check the book of Revelation.

Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion Judisam is the first then finally Christanity Islam was around befor Muhammad was even born the religion islam started with ishmael.

Because Israel is the first line of defence of the West. It is liberal democracy in an area utterly hostile towards it.

If Israel falls so too will most of Europe. And then we'll all be done for.

Well, we'll just have to agree that your religious tradition has a different interpretation of Revelation than mine does. That is, Luther and Calvin personally had doubts if Revelation should even have been canonized. I can't speak for the Calvinistic (Reformed) faiths, but Lutheranism considers Revelation to be a very minor book about the persecution faced by the 1st century church, told in the picturesque apocalyptic style from Persia. We don't base any doctrines on Revelation.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I am a methodist so yeah I think both have a different interpretation Revelation is my favorite book fo the bible.

The Book of Revelation contains the ravings of a madman. Luther and Calvin were quite correct in their misgivings. Most of the crazy end of the world scenarios have their origins in this wretched book.

ruveyn

Yes all that crazy stuff such as global warming and asteroids hitting earth.