In a socialist society everyone is equal

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In a socialist society everyone is equal
Everyone has equal wealth, which is good for the time being. Everyone has equal medicare and social security( for the time being) . Everyone can drive a nice car like this one, for the time being and have a comfortable house.
But is everyone equal. NO. You probably know that aspies are not equal. Well, sometime to get a batter understanding , you have to over exaggerate. Imagine a short fat ugly man with asperger wants to have a decent social life and perhaps find a wife. But it is hard. He is at the bottom of the social ladder and dating is difficult. To believe that with a healthy attitude he can have life like anyone else without extra work is plain ludicrous.
In a capitalist he can earn respectability by doing well starting his own business etc. He has proven he can take care of himself and that in most cases he has noble qualities. I think it takes noble qualities and sweet to do well for yourself. He also has proven to some extent that his children will inherit same traits, and have this good advantage. And the side effect of this is that he is creating jobs and help the economy, something to be proud of.
In a socialist society, he can be a good worker but everyone else is also a good worker still leaving him at a disadvantage. There is one way to earn respect and that is by being the most violent cantankerous person imaginable. Even if he lost respect of 95% of the population for the 5% he would be king. Being a bad boy would have even more significant benefit in a social to a low status man. He can steal food and resources for bribery; he can manipulate people to acquire resources. He can learn to shark work for himself and those in his favour. An woman who has children with him are most likely to expect his offspring to inherit similar traits. All of this is destructive to that society.
The longer a sociality society continues the longer it would have a negative effect on human psychology. And in the worst possible scenario famine will set in like in North Korea, killing all the descent good workers while the corrupt and wicket live on the resources they have dishonestly obtained

So what's the point in doing any more that is expected of you?

None,

Sounds like a rather bleak and depressing existence. No-one will stand out, no-one will make it their life's work to look for cures for anything, no personalities will shine through because "everyone is equal". I looked up the DDR experience of that kind of society... no thanks.

You probably didn't read all my post. The problem I have with socialism is not that it will stop people shining, but when they do, it will be for the wrong reasons. Because one cannot shine being a good working reverts to negative behaviour.

Sorry, no, I didn't. I apologise. And, yes, you're generally right.

Most East Germans had a relatively comfortable existence compared to the other countries of the Eastern bloc. Didn't stop them wanting to pull the whole bloody edifice down though when the time was right.

I wonder what life was like in eastern Germany.

I agree with the OP to an extent; in our current society, Aspies aren't equal... They're leaders. However, a socialist society wouldn't work without neurological differences either.

No neurological differences. No Aspies. No personality "disorders". No one with a brain different to what's considered "normal". That would be dangerous to society. Any society, capitalist or socialist.

NTs are the cogs in the clock, if you will, but you still need someone who isn't a cog to build that clock.

Source some books on the subject.

Not quite, I think that's communism.......socialism is just a economic system in which the government regulates production of goods and services.

Depends how extreme the socialism is.

Also, what business does the bloody government have telling me what I can and can't buy?

In what respect?

Keep in mind that some of us are smarter, faster, stronger, more focused, more beautiful, harder working and luckier than others. So in what way are we all equal (God Forbid!).

Nature did not make us all equal. Why should we make ourselves all equal. That is based on a falsehood.

ruveyn

I don't think it's accurate to describe Aspies as "leaders", because most of us don't really *want* to lead (at least, not in the "managerial" sense). We just want to be left alone to do whatever we want, and have everyone else go along with it.

We might seek out leadership positions as a utilitarian means of getting our own way, but let's be honest... most of us (at least, at the computer/engineering end of the career spectrum) eventually stumble up into management so we can do our own thing, score the projects and roles we want, then do our best to try and avoid doing as much actual management of others as we can possibly get away with, because management takes away from our own development activities.

That people had to put up with the Stasi and what is worse, they had to drive Trabants.

ruveyn

The problem in Eastern Europe in particular wasn't so much that government bureaucrats declared what people were and weren't allowed to buy... the problem was that when they went shopping, everything in stores was dirt cheap, but stores were perpetually sold out of everything people actually wanted to buy.

The best American example is to think about what stores like Sports Authority and Home Depot increasingly became like during the worst months of the Great Recession -- everything was marked down and perpetually on sale, but if you actually wanted to buy something specific, there was a good chance that they didn't actually have any in stock, because they weren't ordering new merchandise to replace merchandise that they sold, and everything you were likely to care about buying was sold out long ago. Want a pair of size 36 shorts? Sorry, they're all sold out. But if you wear 29 or 48, they have entire racks... and they're 60% off. Want a T-shirt? Great, as long as you wear XS or XXXL. They're even on sale. What? XL? Sorry, out of stock.

Likewise, even in the former Soviet Union, few people genuinely lived in fear of midnight knocks on the door from the KGB or Stasi. What people DID worry about was getting reassigned to a crap job, or living with their parents for years (after getting married!) waiting for an apartment somewhere to become available (even though politically-butt-kissing peers seemed to have no such problems). There were countless petty ways their governments could make their lives miserable, and people who made a point of antagonizing the Party were made as miserable as possible.

One of my coworkers (who grew up in St. Petersburg, Russia) put it this way -- it wasn't nearly as bad in the ways Americans always think it was, but it was unbelievably worse in petty ways that Americans can't even imagine. It wasn't so much a matter of life in a police state as it was a matter of living in a society where you spent half your life waiting in line after line so some bureaucrat could shrug and say "sorry, I can't help you", and you quickly figured out that you could either spend your life miserably fighting the system, or you could say 'f**k it', go through the motions of doing the least you could get away with, and and carve out your own private niche of sanity... which is exactly what everyone did.

As a group, high-functioning Aspies did quite badly in the former Soviet Union & Eastern Union. Why? Because under Soviet communism, advancement required lots of a$$-kissing, extroverted enthusiasm for the Party and its endless social functions, and knowing when to bite your tongue even when somebody in a position of political authority is being an idiot -- all skills we tend to suck at rather badly. Plus, military service was more or less a universal requirement (as has been discussed elsewhere, roughly 1/3 of Aspies thrive under military life, and 2/3 melt down and self-destruct), and military disgrace usually meant you could forget about ever having any kind of real career afterward.

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Uhh that is not what I meant.......it means they regulate corporations and the public services, not nessisarly what you buy. Though in countries with more socialist features than the U.S tend to have better food because the regulations in place force healthier food to be produced.

I would not want the government telling me what I can and cannot buy either.