Eco-Nazi teacher saves Earth by torturing kids

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Look, it's another victory for the planet:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3980024/School-turns-heating-off-to-save-planet.html

"Success," he proclaims it, and he's right: This man is a HERO! What daring. To risk being unpopular with his pupils in the present, in order later to save their very lives!
They will never forget him. Finally, there came a voice from the silence, on behalf of the downtrodden masses -- a voice to tell the evil power station, "Enough! We're mad as hell, and we're NOT GONNA USE THE HEATER ANYMORE!! !"

They should have walked out of class and started a bonfire!

You could reduce it more by just not having school, which would be much more beneficial for the society at this point.

That guy is an idiot but I would hardly consider that torture. The heat shouldn't be blaring, but it should be on. Kids should always have sweaters anyway. "Eco-Nazi"

My quick definition of torture is using one's power to put other people in pain for no reason.



...and my definition of a Nazi-type person is one who uses one's power to put other people in pain for no reason, then smiles about it while praising it as good, and as something that should be repeated over and over again (see his pic in the article, and his statements to those effects). Or, "happy facist sadist" works as a quicker definition.

Correct. Captain Planet should be burned at the stake.

ruveyn

the school temperature didn't fall below 18'C. hardly torture, Ragtime.

you managed to pick an article that spun it in such a negative way by stating the temperature was 1'C... but that was the outdoor temperature not the indoor temperature.

http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/Somerse ... story.html

EDIT: that article even said people were shivering and wearing gloves!! ! at 18'C i'd say those people need to harden up a little if they were really THAT cold when it was only a couple degrees below room temperature.

Yep. I also like Rush Limbaugh's reaction to one particular power-saving measure (I think it was some group announcing they would turn their power off for one hour on "Earth Day" or something), when he said he would leave all his lights in his house on 24/7, and also whatever other appliances he had. Someone should do that in the U.K. to protest this teacher's actions. It wouldn't take many people to negate his small power savings. The world's oceans would probably rise 20 feet -- reversing the lowering which Obama announced occured on his election day -- but who cares?

Ok, I didn't realize that. Good to know.



Why would the inconsistency in accounts go that way rather than the other way? There's the account of students shivering and needing gloves, and then there's the account that it was 18C.
You say: They weren't shivering, because it was a couple of degrees below room temperture.
But one could just as easily conclude: The temperature in the classroom could not have been a couple of degrees below room temperature, because the students were shivering and wearing gloves.
It probably read 18C at the thermostat, which was perhaps located more centrally in the building -- such as a corridor -- whereas the classroom would like be chillier, being nearer the windows.
Secondly, if the cooling would only be to 18C, why turn the heat off, rather than simply down a couple of degrees?
Thirdly, why would the parents by "furious", and quoted as such in their statements?

Just a few questions.

Lol, 18 degrees celsius isn't much, that's usually how much it is when I wake up. Those kids need to go train in Canada. Even in some of the university classes, there's often a ventilation shaft blowing cold air on people. We're not quite suffering because of it, geesh.

Oh and, about the third : because parents usually overreact to anything that has to do with their offspring that they didn't agree to? =/

Oh, I forgot, all parents are stupid, and all teachers are wise.

The question then would be, is there an I.Q. shift when a parent becomes a teacher and vice versa?

Last edited by Ragtime on 07 Dec 2011, 11:35 am, edited 1 time in total.

i don't think there is an inconsistency. i think the students and some staff and parents were angry/upset that the heat was off, regardless of whether there was any actual discomfort involved. maybe they were even slightly chilly. your article simply neglected to mention the indoor temperature, so it was not inconsistent but rather incomplete.

You say: They weren't shivering, because it was a couple of degrees below room temperture.[/quote]
no, i said they needed to harden up.


no, the heating system was radiators, which are usually located under windows.


if the radiators are on, they are using energy (less energy if the thermostat is turned down, but energy nonetheless).


i don't know. probably the same reason you were up in arms about it. there is an assumption the pupils suffered somehow.


it's worth noting that this project was the initiative of a student group and the administration agreed to try it. so it wasn't imposed on them from above.

I assumed you didn't actually believe that students can shiver in 18C with no moving air.



Sorry, I forgot. I haven't seen a radiator in something like 15 years; things are pretty modern where I live.

Well, that is what the article conveyed.

I don't recall what 18 degrees celsius is in farenheit, but my son was born in Europe during a "heat wave" - it was 17 degrees.

For those of you who lack the cognitive capacity, 18 degrees celcius is 64.4 farenheit.

Let's look at the applicable health and safety regulations. While there is no established minimum (the regulations simply require that the temperature be reasonable), guidelines suggest that workspaces should be a minimum of 16 degress (or 13 degrees if the work is physical). If the ambient temperature was warm enough for the teachers to work, there seems little basis to conclude that it was not warm enough for children to learn.

There is absolutely no basis on which a healthy child or adult will face cold stress or injury by remaining in a dry environment with an ambient temperature of 18 degrees.

Suggestions of "torture" are wantonly inaccurate, even using your remarkably obtuse definition.

I don't lack the "cognitive capacity" - I just can't be arsed.