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Who Defines "Sin"?
A unique, undefinable, omniscient, and omnipresent Being 15%  15%  [ 3 ]
An enlightened, ascended, and formerly mortal being 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
A collection of immortal and immaterial beings 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
A council of exceptionally wise, mortal beings 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
A Holy Prophet or other religious leader 10%  10%  [ 2 ]
The Moderators of this website 15%  15%  [ 3 ]
Political leaders 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Philosophers 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Individuals, guided by their subjective perceptions 15%  15%  [ 3 ]
Fnord, the Metasyntactic Variable 10%  10%  [ 2 ]
Other: ________________ (Please Explain) 30%  30%  [ 6 ]
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07 Dec 2011, 10:54 pm

Who has both the right and the privilege of defining what "Sin" is, and whether or not a thought, word, or deed is inherently "Sinful"?



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07 Dec 2011, 11:14 pm

Fnord wrote:
Who has both the right and the privilege of defining what "Sin" is, and whether or not a thought, word, or deed is inherently "Sinful"?


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07 Dec 2011, 11:21 pm

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07 Dec 2011, 11:32 pm

Fnord wrote:
Who has both the right and the privilege of defining what "Sin" is, and whether or not a thought, word, or deed is inherently "Sinful"?


We all have a right to judge certain deeds as "sins" or "crimes" or "immoral". But we also have the right to understand the reasoning process behind others' judgements.



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08 Dec 2011, 6:53 am

MCalavera wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Who has both the right and the privilege of defining what "Sin" is, and whether or not a thought, word, or deed is inherently "Sinful"?

We all have a right to judge certain deeds as "sins" or "crimes" or "immoral". But we also have the right to understand the reasoning process behind others' judgements.

Agreed, and then the question becomes the matter of how we might then be judged in turn if we do that in any way that is not consistent with the way of whoever or whatever might ultimately prove to have the final say in the matter ...

... and I suspect that is the intended question of this thread.

To postulate: If there actually is a sovereign Creator, he/she/it ultimately decides all matters.


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08 Dec 2011, 10:01 am

yhvh. and maybe his only son, jesus.


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08 Dec 2011, 11:33 am

peebo wrote:
yhvh. and maybe his only son, jesus.


Because wasting perfectly good food is not a sin in itself. :roll:



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08 Dec 2011, 1:59 pm

hmm that went straight over my head...


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08 Dec 2011, 1:59 pm

Me.

I will get around to assigning blame to each of you in due course.


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08 Dec 2011, 2:16 pm

I voted the first choice. I'm a Christian and proud of it.



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08 Dec 2011, 2:41 pm

I don't like it, the word sin has a unnecessarily religious note so there is no such thing as "a sin".. But to me moral universalism makes a ton of sense. So that would be a breed of "A council of exceptionally wise, mortal beings" and "Philosophers" which have an unfortunate duty to guide all the sheep.



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08 Dec 2011, 2:47 pm

Sin is simply anything outside of God's "plan". Not all sin is evil. You getting hurt in a car accident is outside of God's plan. You even having a car is outside of God's plan. Cars are outside of God's plan. None of these is evil.

Stealing a car is outside of God's plan, and is evil.



Biblically speaking of course. Vishnu's opinion may differ...



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08 Dec 2011, 2:52 pm

i will refer to sin in moral context of definitive right and wrong, first their is no definite sense of right and wrong its all based on perception, my sense of right and wrong is different than someone raised in the middle east or north korea or cuba or someone raised hindu or muslim my sense of right and wrong is it is right to do anything you want to yourself and your property as long as no one else is affected, since i believe in the almost extinct belief of Self Ownership, however we live in a world where we dont own ourselves we are owned by our respective governments instead

anyway the individual decides what is right and wrong based on enviornment, setting, way they were raised, lifestyle, and life experiences and throughout life their views on what is right or wrong may change depending on how they still view the world at the time............morals are subjective they are an artificial creation of humans that are not present in nature therefore morals are a fallacy being a completely human idea, in my humble opinion.


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08 Dec 2011, 3:23 pm

Okay -- who's the suck-up who voted "the Moderators of this website?" :lol:


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08 Dec 2011, 3:26 pm

I don't know about other holy texts, but I do know that the word "sin" as actually a mistranslation from the ancient Greek the New Testament was written in. I believe the bible was manipulated and changed by humans. There are "lost" gospels, such as that of Mary Magdalene they found in the vatican. Really? If you research the concept you might find something. I forgot where I read it.



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08 Dec 2011, 3:32 pm

rocklobster wrote:
I voted the first choice. I'm a Christian and proud of it.

Good for you. Have you read Galatians 5:26?

"Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other."