What does the U.S Get from its support of Israel?

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24 May 2011, 12:11 pm

This is not a question of right and wrong or why does the U.S. support Israel.
but what material benefit does the U.S. get from its Israel policy?
How is it in anyone's (other than Israels) national interest to support Israel?

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24 May 2011, 12:59 pm

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This is not a question of right and wrong or why does the U.S. support Israel.
but what material benefit does the U.S. get from its Israel policy?
How is it anyone's (other than Israels) national interest to support Israel?

Back in the days of the Cold War Israel was a potential aircraft carrier for American air power. Nowadays we get help from Israeli intelligence which is better at dealing with Muslims than our CIA. Obviously Israel is not as useful to use now as she was back in the Cold War.

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24 May 2011, 1:50 pm

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Actually it wouldn't surprise me if we owe Israel money, since they are a net lender not a net borrower.

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24 May 2011, 1:52 pm

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it's kinda a scary thought.

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24 May 2011, 1:58 pm

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ruveyn wrote:

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it's kinda a scary thought.

Actually Obama's stance isn't surprising.

Close ties

According to a professor at the University of Chicago who said he has known Obama for 12 years, the Democratic presidential hopeful first befriended Khalidi when the two worked together at the university. The professor spoke on condition of anonymity. Khalidi lectured at the University of Chicago until 2003, while Obama taught law there from 1993 until his election to the Senate in 2004.

Khalidi in 2000 held what was described as a successful fundraiser for Obama's failed bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives, a fact not denied by Khalidi.

Amid multiple anti-Israel speeches, Obama offered a glowing testimonial in praise of Khalidi at a 2003 farewell dinner, marking the professor's departure from his post at the University of Chicago for a new teaching position at Columbia University. Obama spoke about his many talks with Khalidi.

An article in April in the Los Angeles Times documents how at the Khalidi farewell dinner one young Palestinian American recited a poem in Obama's presence that accused the Israeli government of terrorism in its treatment of Palestinians and sharply criticized U.S. support of Israel.

Another speaker, who reportedly talked while Obama was present, compared "Zionist settlers on the West Bank" to Osama bin Laden, the Times reported.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/c ... log-24436/

This is the kind of information the media tried to cover up in the 2008 election.

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24 May 2011, 2:18 pm

we get a surplus of lox and bagels. no seriously though lsreal is one huge liability to the US. All they seem to be good at is pissing off their neighbors and running a ironic apartheid state

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24 May 2011, 2:20 pm

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we get a surplus of lox and bagels. no seriously though lsreal is one huge liability to the US. All they seem to be good at is pissing off their neighbors and running a ironic apartheid state

You neglected to mention that their neighbors are hell bent on murdering every Jewish Person down to the last baby, and they have walled off the Palestinians because they got fed up with Palestinians blowing themselves up in diners and shopping malls.

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24 May 2011, 2:21 pm

heylelshalem wrote:

we get a surplus of lox and bagels. no seriously though lsreal is one huge liability to the US. All they seem to be good at is pissing off their neighbors and running a ironic apartheid state

No State is under any obligation to have policies that will bring about its own destruction.

In Israel the Druze (for example) have rights that are protected by Israeli law. Some apartheidt that is. In Israel, Arab Israeli citizens have the vote.

The Apartheidt thing is a lie that that a**-hole Jimmy Carter put forth.

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24 May 2011, 2:24 pm

ruveyn wrote:

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we get a surplus of lox and bagels. no seriously though lsreal is one huge liability to the US. All they seem to be good at is pissing off their neighbors and running a ironic apartheid state

You left out the anti-semites in the UN.

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24 May 2011, 2:25 pm

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we get a surplus of lox and bagels. no seriously though lsreal is one huge liability to the US. All they seem to be good at is pissing off their neighbors and running a ironic apartheid state

None of that is an American national interest concern.
lets try to focus.

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24 May 2011, 2:25 pm

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we get a surplus of lox and bagels. no seriously though lsreal is one huge liability to the US. All they seem to be good at is pissing off their neighbors and running a ironic apartheid state

funny how they never had that problem before when they lived side by side with their arab neighbors lol.

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24 May 2011, 2:27 pm

ruveyn wrote:

heylelshalem wrote:

we get a surplus of lox and bagels. no seriously though lsreal is one huge liability to the US. All they seem to be good at is pissing off their neighbors and running a ironic apartheid state

well if it walks like a duck and talk likes a duck its probably a duck

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24 May 2011, 2:30 pm

heylelshalem wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

heylelshalem wrote:

we get a surplus of lox and bagels. no seriously though lsreal is one huge liability to the US. All they seem to be good at is pissing off their neighbors and running a ironic apartheid state

funny how they never had that problem before when they lived side by side with their arab neighbors lol.

I would prefer a discussion of the role of Israel in the American national interest I have already heard
Ina's knee jerk anti-obamaism, so don't feed the troll
@inaYusha do you get paid by the word or by the post? (hook me up)

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24 May 2011, 2:31 pm

heylelshalem wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

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we get a surplus of lox and bagels. no seriously though lsreal is one huge liability to the US. All they seem to be good at is pissing off their neighbors and running a ironic apartheid state

funny how they never had that problem before when they lived side by side with their arab neighbors lol.

Actually they did, hell they had the problems all through Europe too. The Arabs tried to annihilate them as soon as they became a country... I'm not going to sit here and not call you out on your misrepresentation of history.

heylelshalem wrote:

well if it walks like a duck and talk likes a duck its probably a duck

So you refuse to acknowledge that the Palestinians are in the wrong because they use their own children as explosive devices...

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24 May 2011, 2:35 pm

helps presidential candidates win florida, duh.

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24 May 2011, 2:42 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:

heylelshalem wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

heylelshalem wrote:

we get a surplus of lox and bagels. no seriously though lsreal is one huge liability to the US. All they seem to be good at is pissing off their neighbors and running a ironic apartheid state

funny how they never had that problem before when they lived side by side with their arab neighbors lol.

Sorry, but I don't work for George Soros, furthermore how about you stop acting like a troll.

Looks to me like you can't handle the fact I'm right on this and you can't admit you were wrong.

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