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21 Jan 2012, 9:12 pm

For some reason it's common for people in my mom's side of the family to have ESP, mostly precognition. My mom also can hear my thoughts, she says she doesn't READ minds, but that Aspies project their thoughts harder than NTs do. (My mom's not NT though, she has ADHD) I have SOME precognition, but it only happens when important things are going to happen to the people I love and just comes as daydreams or thoughts, not in a dream. I'm mostly more of an Empath, though I'm defidentally not the best. Instead of JUST knowing their emotions I can tell people's intent from just being around them, so I avoid the people who give off bad feelings. I can tell if someone has the potential to be bad the first time I see them, it really just depends on whether or not I chose to pay attention and not ignore it.
I know all of this sounds crazy, but this is real, it's just not COMMON. Those are two different things.
Do you guys have psychics in your family? Do you believe in ESP? Do you HAVE ESP?


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Hmmm...interesting. Shows what you know about Aspies, doesn't it rofl?

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21 Jan 2012, 9:29 pm

I have an aunt that used to say that she had some psychic experiences. She quit talking about it once I got to the age where it didn't bother me to tell her she was full of it.

If people can have psychic experiences, I don't know how they could differentiate the thoughts over some other random thought process. It just stands out? How? Someone yells, "THIS IS A PSYCHIC EXPERIENCE!! !???"


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21 Jan 2012, 9:40 pm

snapcap wrote:
I have an aunt that used to say that she had some psychic experiences. She quit talking about it once I got to the age where it didn't bother me to tell her she was full of it.

If people can have psychic experiences, I don't know how they could differentiate the thoughts over some other random thought process. It just stands out? How? Someone yells, "THIS IS A PSYCHIC EXPERIENCE!! !???"

I don't really think Psychics are different from normal people. I think it's just some uncommon thing, but not imposible and doesn't make them crazy.
Yeah it DOES stand out. Precognition is much stronger of a feeling to me. Like instead of THINKING something will happen, it's KNOWING. Empathy is that way too, I can tell the difference from my emotions and others now.


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Hmmm...interesting. Shows what you know about Aspies, doesn't it rofl?

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21 Jan 2012, 9:43 pm

a. There is no valid empirical evidence to support any claim for psychic ability.

b. Absence of evidence, while not evidence of absence, is sufficient cause for reasonable doubt.

: : It is reasonable to doubt that the aspiemusician's claims are valid.

@aspiemusician: Evidence, please?



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21 Jan 2012, 9:45 pm

Not quite so much ESP as a series of dreams.

At least once a month I'll dream an entire day, then a few weeks or months later it happens. Every little detail will be exactly correct.


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22 Jan 2012, 12:46 am

theaspiemusician wrote:
For some reason it's common for people in my mom's side of the family to have ESP, mostly precognition. My mom also can hear my thoughts, she says she doesn't READ minds, but that Aspies project their thoughts harder than NTs do. (My mom's not NT though, she has ADHD) I have SOME precognition, but it only happens when important things are going to happen to the people I love and just comes as daydreams or thoughts, not in a dream. I'm mostly more of an Empath, though I'm defidentally not the best. Instead of JUST knowing their emotions I can tell people's intent from just being around them, so I avoid the people who give off bad feelings. I can tell if someone has the potential to be bad the first time I see them, it really just depends on whether or not I chose to pay attention and not ignore it.
I know all of this sounds crazy, but this is real, it's just not COMMON. Those are two different things.
Do you guys have psychics in your family? Do you believe in ESP? Do you HAVE ESP?


Hi theaspiemuscian,

The form of communication over a formed connection can be so subtle that "conscious" humans cannot detect it (an "active" awareness floods out any "subtle" awareness theory). As a child, my "subtle" awareness of other individuals was both a source of amazement, and quickly a source of uneasiness, or fear, from other people. Calling such awareness as "psychic abilities" to "mind reading", cycles through with consideration and rejection in scientific studies, religions, and popular fads.

In childhood, I could amaze (often frighten) people by "seeing" their aura of colour surrounding their body as they were thinking of the colour. Other people involved demanded that my skill be verified, by the person writing down the colour they were going to think of themselves enveloped in, and some even tried to trick me by writing down the wrong colour to verify that I wasn't using was they wrote down as a clue to follow. Later, I discovered my great ability was grouped under the concept of the "Clever Hans Effect". Clever Hans is a horse that demonstrated that many horses are smarter than many people. http://www.skepdic.com/cleverhans.html

Some explanations included the detection of N-Rays: "The Horse of Mr. Von Osten"
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid= ... %22+N-Rays

I often wonder if sensitivity to very minor clues can be overwhelming to the extent of near necessary avoidance, or to avoid knowing too much (fear and anger are two common responses from people when they realize you know more about them than they wish to have had revealed indirectly). Larger sets of cultural conditionings involving colours are often exploited in the arts, and, for examle, I think Oliver Stone "inverted" the associations of many colours and "wrong" social situations in the controversial film "Natural Born Killers" for initially strong surrealistic effects.

The aura associated with deja vu can be spectacular also. Before my 50's, warnings of impending clusters of seizures would occur just as I would start to doze off for a nap, or for my night's sleep. I believe the warnings were specific minor simple partial seizures similar to aura. I could delay additional seizures by staying awake when I was younger, but when I would finally doze off again, the cluster seizures would start again, from weak to strong in a couple, to a few, hours, then stronger seizures during the next day or so even while awake. My dreams amongst the seizures would be very vivid and intense, most often very short snipets with intense fear, easily identifiable as dreams by the basic laws of physics being violated (somewhat like very brief scenes from (the older) "Nightmare On Elm Street" with no rhyme or reason (very brief ones in seizures while awake, often would be like snipets of the "Carnival Of Souls" (1962)(not the lousy 1998 remake LOL))). In the less frequent instances when fear wasn't the dominant emotion, my dreams could be much more coherent, and more challenging for explanations, as I could seemingly dream of reading a book, and ace a test based on the book in the near future, to having dreams involving people I didn't presently know, and have a spectacular deja vu when I met them in the future. Of some of my deja vu that have been spectacular, I still haven't figured out how I managed to already know the details of my classmates' lives at UNM before I even met them or knew of them, but there they were on the first day of class, and me, instantly knowing them and their details. Mere coincidence would be at tremendous odds, and the doctrine of infinite duplicate, or near, repetition in an infinite universe would be more plausible. A rationalist that rejects infinity has to call such foreknowledge, an impairment. Of course, life-long epilepsy makes it easier to reject the doctrine of free will, and replace it with predestination weighted maybe by Siger of Brabant's dismal doctrine of infinite permutations in repetition.

Most all the emotions of the dreams and partial seizures seem to be based in the Limbic System, and while the emotional sensations during a seizure are at the whims of the ictus in epilepsy, the post-ictal emotional sensations, and/or states, can often be manipulated with Pavlovian Conditioning by somewhat using conflicting sided-emotions of the left versus right sides of the Limbic System, and vice-versa (all the way to subliminal stimuli: https://www.google.com/search?sourceid= ... ou+gave%22 ).

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22 Jan 2012, 2:03 am

theaspiemusician wrote:
For some reason it's common for people in my mom's side of the family to have ESP, mostly precognition.


No such thing. Any such impression you have is based on faulty reasoning.

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22 Jan 2012, 3:20 am

there were "sensitives" [IOW psychically talented folk] in both sides of my family tree.
but the skeptics will never believe until it happens to them. it happened with my kin, so i believe.



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22 Jan 2012, 8:06 am

hey if it really is true you know there is a prize of a million dollars for being the first to prove said abilities under reasonable experimental conditions


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22 Jan 2012, 8:20 am

auntblabby wrote:
there were "sensitives" [IOW psychically talented folk] in both sides of my family tree.
but the skeptics will never believe until it happens to them. it happened with my kin, so i believe.


So you believe. Your beliefs and $3.15 will buy a large coffee and a plain donut a Dunkin' Donuts (tm).

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22 Jan 2012, 10:45 am

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hey if it really is true you know there is a prize of a million dollars for being the first to prove said abilities under reasonable experimental conditions

It can be found at James Randi's Million Dollar Challenge.

All you have to do is successfully demonstrate your alleged abilities in front of scientist, magicians, and other skeptics.

One million dollars would buy a lot of coffee and donuts!



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22 Jan 2012, 10:48 am

Fnord wrote:
Oodain wrote:
hey if it really is true you know there is a prize of a million dollars for being the first to prove said abilities under reasonable experimental conditions

It can be found at James Randi's Million Dollar Challenge.

All you have to do is successfully demonstrate your alleged abilities in front of scientist, magicians, and other skeptics.

One million dollars would buy a lot of coffee and donuts!


it really does up the ante doesnt it??


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22 Jan 2012, 10:51 am

My dream is that Queen Esther will return to Iran and implement Carl Sagan's plan to eliminate nuclear weapons by using them to propel a manned spacecraft to Mars.



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22 Jan 2012, 10:55 am

Oodain wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Oodain wrote:
hey if it really is true you know there is a prize of a million dollars for being the first to prove said abilities under reasonable experimental conditions

It can be found at James Randi's Million Dollar Challenge.

All you have to do is successfully demonstrate your alleged abilities in front of scientist, magicians, and other skeptics.

One million dollars would buy a lot of coffee and donuts!


it really does up the ante doesnt it??


Surely does, weird how nobody has claimed it yet.... :roll:



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22 Jan 2012, 2:47 pm

when i was under the influence of lsd me and the person i was tripping with wanted to go visit a friend for hanging out during the evening. she was about to text him and then we forgot wat we where doing and started biking. when we stoped biking the guy we where going to visit was right in front of us walking towards his home. we could come and hang out with him.
and to the naysayers the very nature of magic is not one of control but one of sensing the natural flow of things that's why both things like precognition and lsd arn't testable in a scientific study.



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22 Jan 2012, 3:00 pm

Kelspook wrote:
Oodain wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Oodain wrote:
hey if it really is true you know there is a prize of a million dollars for being the first to prove said abilities under reasonable experimental conditions
It can be found at James Randi's Million Dollar Challenge. All you have to do is successfully demonstrate your alleged abilities in front of scientist, magicians, and other skeptics. One million dollars would buy a lot of coffee and donuts!
it really does up the ante doesnt it??
Surely does, weird how nobody has claimed it yet.... :roll:

It amazes me, considering how many people claim to be psychic - not even one of them has been able to meet the M$Challenge and win the prize!

:lol: