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24 Jan 2012, 6:52 pm

I don't believe in God, don't believe in human kindness, don't believe in free will, neither in a supreme purpose.
Sometimes i reflect upon my own death and i realise i have no reason to fight, though I know i have an high potential to do something interesting. But i can't help humanity... I can't help myself. I can't see big difference between animals and humans. We all fear death and fight for survival. But in the end we all die. For me, life is absurd and without meaning.
Does anyone feel the way i do? What do you live for?

I live because i FEAR.


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24 Jan 2012, 7:14 pm

Why don't you believe in science?



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24 Jan 2012, 7:18 pm

AnotherKind wrote:
I don't believe in God, don't believe in human kindness, don't believe in free will, neither in a supreme purpose.
Sometimes i reflect upon my own death and i realise i have no reason to fight, though I know i have an high potential to do something interesting. But i can't help humanity... I can't help myself. I can't see big difference between animals and humans. We all fear death and fight for survival. But in the end we all die. For me, life is absurd and without meaning.
Does anyone feel the way i do? What do you live for?

I live because i FEAR.


What do you value?


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24 Jan 2012, 7:26 pm

I live my life because I have fun sometimes.


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24 Jan 2012, 8:06 pm

abacacus wrote:
I live my life because I have fun sometimes.


and it can be interesting too



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24 Jan 2012, 9:46 pm

All I am certain of is that there is a supreme being. I can't possibly know any more than that, but I beleive life is to complicated to have happened completely by accident.

That said, as far as the meaning of life

I actually find the titular "assassin's creed" Motto to be quite profound

Nothing is True , Everything is permitted

For those who don't play the game It basically means that there is no fundimental truth to life, and all rules are just made up by men. This means that ultimately the responsibility to live well and
do the right thing ultimately rests with you, and there are no limits to what you can do if you try hard enough

At least I think that's what it means


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24 Jan 2012, 10:24 pm

AnotherKind wrote:
I don't believe in God, don't believe in human kindness, don't believe in free will, neither in a supreme purpose.
Sometimes i reflect upon my own death and i realise i have no reason to fight, though I know i have an high potential to do something interesting. But i can't help humanity... I can't help myself. I can't see big difference between animals and humans. We all fear death and fight for survival. But in the end we all die. For me, life is absurd and without meaning.
Does anyone feel the way i do? What do you live for?

I live because i FEAR.


Is that you Hamlet? Is this me?


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24 Jan 2012, 10:32 pm

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AnotherKind wrote:
I don't believe in God, don't believe in human kindness, don't believe in free will, neither in a supreme purpose. Sometimes i reflect upon my own death and i realise i have no reason to fight, though I know i have an high potential to do something interesting. But i can't help humanity... I can't help myself. I can't see big difference between animals and humans. We all fear death and fight for survival. But in the end we all die. For me, life is absurd and without meaning. Does anyone feel the way i do? What do you live for? I live because i FEAR.
Is that you Hamlet? Is this me?

And THAT ... is the question ...

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24 Jan 2012, 11:17 pm

AnotherKind wrote:
I don't believe in God, don't believe in human kindness, don't believe in free will, neither in a supreme purpose.
Sometimes i reflect upon my own death and i realise i have no reason to fight, though I know i have an high potential to do something interesting. But i can't help humanity... I can't help myself. I can't see big difference between animals and humans. We all fear death and fight for survival. But in the end we all die. For me, life is absurd and without meaning.
Does anyone feel the way i do? What do you live for?

I live because i FEAR.


i agree with you 100% and i live in spite of the Absurd. i learned not long ago that life has no meaning except on the individual level, your meaning is what you do with your life. there is no Grand Purpose or Plan for humanity, to think so is arrogance and the highest form of ignorance. we simply exist just like all life does, but what we decide to do in our life is whats important, when you die will you be full of regret and despair or will you be satisfied for living a rewarding life? its all up to you

personally, i want to live Self Sufficiently one day so i dont become a slave to the System, only then will i feel like i have lived a satisfying life when i die


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24 Jan 2012, 11:52 pm

just because something is fleeting or pointless or absurd doesn't mean it's not worth experiencing. there's a lot of stuff to learn. i love learning.

also, humans are animals.



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25 Jan 2012, 1:45 am

What would a meaning look like anyway. An end of some kind? It's either an end or the start of something else, those seem to be the two choices for what comes next... both infinitely... so... ?

I read that fear is the predominant emotion in Aspies. That seemed very miserable to me but it does seem to be true when I compare my experience with how other people seem to be faring even in the same circumstances. Fear also seems to be the predominant emotion in most if not all non-human animals.

But living on earth has been paradisical for me from time to time so that's what I live for, the next time I get to experience heaven, which I suspect is the only heaven there is, right here. The more I think about it the more foolish It seems to take the view I've always taken of life as a long haul to death. All there is is happiness and trying to get there. And the trying to get there is an essential precursor to happiness because happiness can't sustain itself, it naturally becomes wanting because that's all there is to keep us going forward, wanting. Otherwise time would freeze in the moment of peace and perfection and non-movement and we would no longer be conscious beings and there would no longer be a world and that would be the end and that really doesn't sound pleasant to me, I don't enjoy the thought of not existing for an eternity. Or existing for an eternity. They're both exhausting and really horrifying, I have nightmares about both things. But maybe it's both. Anyway maybe it's that we repeatedly make our way to the calm center of things, then the center gets turned inside out and it's now the outside and we have to make our way back in again. It's not so bad if you think about it that way. As long as you have a goal and that's a goal. There's only ever one goal. Returning to bliss. It can seem like an eternity compared with the immediacy of death but what's an eternity compared with an eternity.



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25 Jan 2012, 7:40 am

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Why don't you believe in science?


I can't believe in a limited science. Though i'd rather believe in science than in religion.

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What do you value?

At the moment, i value my everyday coffee, my tomcat, music and silence.
Above all i value health. Though i know one day i'll have to die. Maybe death is a good thing because then i can finally enjoy silence.

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personally, i want to live Self Sufficiently one day so i dont become a slave to the System, only then will i feel like i have lived a satisfying life when i die

It would be cool. But i don't know if it is possible for a woman to be self sufficient.


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25 Jan 2012, 7:55 am

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What would a meaning look like anyway. An end of some kind? It's either an end or the start of something else, those seem to be the two choices for what comes next... both infinitely... so... ?

I read that fear is the predominant emotion in Aspies. That seemed very miserable to me but it does seem to be true when I compare my experience with how other people seem to be faring even in the same circumstances. Fear also seems to be the predominant emotion in most if not all non-human animals.

But living on earth has been paradisical for me from time to time so that's what I live for, the next time I get to experience heaven, which I suspect is the only heaven there is, right here. The more I think about it the more foolish It seems to take the view I've always taken of life as a long haul to death. All there is is happiness and trying to get there. And the trying to get there is an essential precursor to happiness because happiness can't sustain itself, it naturally becomes wanting because that's all there is to keep us going forward, wanting. Otherwise time would freeze in the moment of peace and perfection and non-movement and we would no longer be conscious beings and there would no longer be a world and that would be the end and that really doesn't sound pleasant to me, I don't enjoy the thought of not existing for an eternity. Or existing for an eternity. They're both exhausting and really horrifying, I have nightmares about both things. But maybe it's both. Anyway maybe it's that we repeatedly make our way to the calm center of things, then the center gets turned inside out and it's now the outside and we have to make our way back in again. It's not so bad if you think about it that way. As long as you have a goal and that's a goal. There's only ever one goal. Returning to bliss. It can seem like an eternity compared with the immediacy of death but what's an eternity compared with an eternity.

Very nice said. But i can't be happy seeing the battle outside, the nature in suffering, animals and people fighting for their own survival.
One time i loved nature. It was perfect for me. I loved also the nature in all humans. Now, my eyes have opened and i see all this suffering.
I have seen a beggar in a bus, i saw the fear and despair in his eyes. Nobody cared. Neither did i... i was just fascinated to realise this happens everyday.
If all this suffering would had a meaning, i would have a reason to fight. Now it all seems to be so pointless...
You know, if i would had a better life, maybe i could be happy with my ignorance. I would close my eyes to all this pain and looking just for my own pleasure. But my life isn't nice at all. I have no people to understand with, everyone is so selfish and cruel. And we live in the world and we should understand each other. My only friend is my cat. I wonder how much i can stand this empty feeling. Sometimes i have the feeling i live in a vacuum, i have nothing to cling to.

For me life is just an stupid accident.


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25 Jan 2012, 9:42 am

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I can't believe in a limited science. Though i'd rather believe in science than in religion.

What are the limits of science?



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25 Jan 2012, 10:46 am

Your life has exactly the meaning you give to it.

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25 Jan 2012, 1:22 pm

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personally, i want to live Self Sufficiently one day so i dont become a slave to the System, only then will i feel like i have lived a satisfying life when i die

It would be cool. But i don't know if it is possible for a woman to be self sufficient.


It is perfectly possible for a woman to live self sufficiently, ever heard of an Eco-Village? they exist as small self sufficient towns, i have been considering living at one for a time to learn more. and you can always get a boyfriend who is into that kind of thing, like what i been doing is spreading the word getting people interested and got several people who will join me and when we do this we will all work together to sustain ourselves.....


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