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04 Feb 2012, 7:08 am

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... TopStories

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/21/world ... wanted=all

if anything at least glance at the first part of that first link. i originally found this on the front page of the WSJ, which i do not subscribe to (probably expensive right?) but have been 'stealing' from a neighbor who has moved out, but the papers keep coming . . . there were 5 piled up one day before i decided i might as well be benefiting from having free access to a classy newspaper

anywho----- as i said, at least look over the first part of the first link, read all of both if you have the attention span, what do you think about that?

I want to see what is the popular reception before I speak my thoughts . . .



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04 Feb 2012, 1:50 pm

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KABUL—When the Taliban ruled Afghanistan in the 1990s, Maulvi Qalamuddin headed the Committee to Protect Virtue and Prevent Vice, the religious police that shut down girls' schools, beat up men with insufficiently long beards and arrested those in possession of music or video tapes.


"The US is giving us so much money, why stop?"

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Nowadays, the 60-year-old Taliban cleric is on a different mission: He is overseeing a network of schools that teach reading, writing and math to thousands of girls in his home province of Logar, an insurgent hotbed just south of Kabul.


"AH, no more money. In fact, they are after us now! Now we know what it's like to be in Hamas :cry: "


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11 Feb 2012, 6:01 am

nobody thought this was interesting? well i guess i'll say what i was planning on anyway. my immediate reaction was 'are you fecking serious', that is ridiculous, so forth in that vein. I figured that might be the popular reaction, though as it turns out there was no reaction here. Anywho, i thought about it more and realized, in terms of history, the founders of our country could well be viewed as terrorists. We live on land we stole from the natives, raping and killing them along the way. We have also perpetrated atrocities upon minorities until very recently, and still presently in practice, though no longer sanctioned by the government. All in all we should realize we have significantly matured over a couple hundred years, and are probably still not as mature as we would like to believe. We have no ground to say we are less violent or in any way better or much different from the Taliban. Furthermore, that they are making positive steps this early in their existence possibly puts them one up from us, where we took two hundred years to start making those magnitude of improvements. It may seem strange because this is all occuring in recent memory, processes probably expedited due to that we are in the information age, much more competitive and subject to rapid revision.
Well i know thats all very vague but i think you catch my drift.



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11 Feb 2012, 6:06 am

also i just realize i was without stating it considering the history of the united states, and asserting it kind of universally, but i know members here are worldwide. however AS my statements were very vague, they probably have parallels in histories of any nation, just at an earlier date. though hundreds and thousands of years are nothing in the scheme of things. the agricultural revolution happened a blink of an eye ago relative to the age of the earth. same story for the linguistic revolution, though its at least several times more ancient than agriculture as a precursor to it. or bipedalism and encephalation. our species is a baby.