Who is responsible for the Holocaust?

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Who would you consider culpable for the Nazi Holocaust? Explain why.

I would go for the all Nazi's option... but may I ask what the point of this thread is?

A couple questions for you:

1.) Define what the term "Holocaust" covers during this time period. Most of the time it covers 6 million Jews, and some people blanket all 10-12 million as one. Just making sure.

2.) What is your opinion on this? Who do you think is responsible? I like how you make these threads without giving your opinion for many of these.

EDIT #3: The 2 edits above concern the second sentence of 1.) for clarity.

Last edited by HerrGrimm on 29 Jan 2012, 9:01 pm, edited 3 times in total.

Is there a point for any thread here?

1) Any killing the Nazis or their collaborators did to any targeted group.

2) I like to give my opinion later so I don't pollute what people would have stated about theirs.

I think a lot of people what to hear it now. I don't think there is much to discuss here, honestly.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
--Edmund Burke

I would consider anyone who knew what was happening but did not resist, refuse to take part, spread the word, etc., responsible. Basically, if they helped or did absolutely nothing against it, and knew about it going on, they were responsible, in my opinion.

I hold the entire Nazi Party responsible, although it was devised by Heinrich Himmler, rather than Hitler himself.

"Other."

Because I blame human f*****g nature.

It happened before.

It's happened since, although not on quite so large or organized-- I think the word I want is quite so "systematic"-- a scale.

It will happen again.

And a lot of people who could stop it if they chose to, while they do not actively participate, will do as so many so-called civilized nations did while the Nazis did it: Deliberately, knowingly, willfully choose to look the other way.

Homo sapiens sapiens?? Really??

And they call me a monster...

I'm tired. I'm tired. I've tried and I'm tired.

Did you ever notice that "tried" and "tired" are the same word with two letters transposed???

If there is a god, that would the focus of my blame. Absent a god, then all of humanity is to blame. Although one could simply blame the universe as a whole, instead.

Even the people that were in the Holocaust? How is that?

EDIT: According to Wiki



Why doesn't the definition of the Holocaust include these people for all historians?

Anti-semitism was endemic to all of Europe and also the Baltic countries, Ukraine and Russia. When the Germans invaded Latvia, Luthuania and Estonia the anti-semites could not wait to joint them in wiping out the local Jewish population. Similar things happened in Hungary. Even in France the puppet government rounded up Jews to hand over to the Nazis. A low temp anti-Semitism existed in France since the days of the Dreyfus Affair. Anti-Jewish sentiment was less pronounced in Italy, but the Italian fascists eventually started rounding up Jews to turn over to the Nazis, primarily for political reasons. Even so Pope Pius 12 made a deal with the Nazis and did little to protect Jews. It was "bootleg" activity by Cardinal Rancalli (who later became Pope John 23) that saved the lives of many Jews.

There were always righteous Gentiles in Europe but they were in the minority.

ruveyn

Yeah I actually think the Holocaust was inevitable by that point. If the Nazi regime didn't do it, someone else probably would have eventually, unfortunately.

Hitler, his minions, Nazis, the Third Reich, the military of the Third Reich, and a large portion of Europe's population that collaborated with the Nazis so as to keep themselves out of the way of the firing squad.

Fortunately, those who were directly responsible are either older than 80 or dead. In another 20 years or so, there will be no more such people left alive, and the rest of the world can finally deal with whatever its present situation may be at the time.

At that time, determining who was responsible for the Holocaust will be as irrelevant as determining who was responsible for the sinking of the Titanic is now.