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07 Feb 2012, 8:13 am

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We the People’ Loses Appeal With People Around the World

The Constitution has seen better days.

Sure, it is the nation’s founding document and sacred text. And it is the oldest written national constitution still in force anywhere in the world. But its influence is waning.

In 1987, on the Constitution’s bicentennial, Time magazine calculated that “of the 170 countries that exist today, more than 160 have written charters modeled directly or indirectly on the U.S. version.”

A quarter-century later, the picture looks very different. “The U.S. Constitution appears to be losing its appeal as a model for constitutional drafters elsewhere,” according to a new study by David S. Law of Washington University in St. Louis and Mila Versteeg of the University of Virginia.

The study, to be published in June in The New York University Law Review, bristles with data. Its authors coded and analyzed the provisions of 729 constitutions adopted by 188 countries from 1946 to 2006, and they considered 237 variables regarding various rights and ways to enforce them.

“Among the world’s democracies,” Professors Law and Versteeg concluded, “constitutional similarity to the United States has clearly gone into free fall. Over the 1960s and 1970s, democratic constitutions as a whole became more similar to the U.S. Constitution, only to reverse course in the 1980s and 1990s.”
“The turn of the twenty-first century, however, saw the beginning of a steep plunge that continues through the most recent years for which we have data, to the point that the constitutions of the world’s democracies are, on average, less similar to the U.S. Constitution now than they were at the end of World War II.”

There are lots of possible reasons. The United States Constitution is terse and old, and it guarantees relatively few rights. The commitment of some members of the Supreme Court to interpreting the Constitution according to its original meaning in the 18th century may send the signal that it is of little current use to, say, a new African nation. And the Constitution’s waning influence may be part of a general decline in American power and prestige.

In an interview, Professor Law identified a central reason for the trend: the availability of newer, sexier and more powerful operating systems in the constitutional marketplace. “Nobody wants to copy Windows 3.1,” he said.

In a television interview during a visit to Egypt last week, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg of the Supreme Court seemed to agree. “I would not look to the United States Constitution if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012,” she said. She recommended, instead, the South African Constitution, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms or the European Convention on Human Rights.

The rights guaranteed by the American Constitution are parsimonious by international standards, and they are frozen in amber. As Sanford Levinson wrote in 2006 in “Our Undemocratic Constitution,” “the U.S. Constitution is the most difficult to amend of any constitution currently existing in the world today.” (Yugoslavia used to hold that title, but Yugoslavia did not work out.)

Other nations routinely trade in their constitutions wholesale, replacing them on average every 19 years. By odd coincidence, Thomas Jefferson, in a 1789 letter to James Madison, once said that every constitution “naturally expires at the end of 19 years” because “the earth belongs always to the living generation.” These days, the overlap between the rights guaranteed by the Constitution and those most popular around the world is spotty.

Americans recognize rights not widely protected, including ones to a speedy and public trial, and are outliers in prohibiting government establishment of religion. But the Constitution is out of step with the rest of the world in failing to protect, at least in so many words, a right to travel, the presumption of innocence and entitlement to food, education and health care.
It has its idiosyncrasies. Only 2 percent of the world’s constitutions protect, as the Second Amendment does, a right to bear arms. (Its brothers in arms are Guatemala and Mexico.)

The Constitution’s waning global stature is consistent with the diminished influence of the Supreme Court, which “is losing the central role it once had among courts in modern democracies,” Aharon Barak, then the president of the Supreme Court of Israel, wrote in The Harvard Law Review in 2002.

Many foreign judges say they have become less likely to cite decisions of the United States Supreme Court, in part because of what they consider its parochialism.

“America is in danger, I think, of becoming something of a legal backwater,” Justice Michael Kirby of the High Court of Australia said in a 2001 interview. He said that he looked instead to India, South Africa and New Zealand.

Mr. Barak, for his part, identified a new constitutional superpower: “Canadian law,” he wrote, “serves as a source of inspiration for many countries around the world.” The new study also suggests that the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, adopted in 1982, may now be more influential than its American counterpart.

The Canadian Charter is both more expansive and less absolute. It guarantees equal rights for women and disabled people, allows affirmative action and requires that those arrested be informed of their rights. On the other hand, it balances those rights against “such reasonable limits” as “can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.”

There are, of course, limits to empirical research based on coding and counting, and there is more to a constitution than its words, as Justice Antonin Scalia told the Senate Judiciary Committee in October. “Every banana republic in the world has a bill of rights,” he said.

“The bill of rights of the former evil empire, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, was much better than ours,” he said, adding: “We guarantee freedom of speech and of the press. Big deal. They guaranteed freedom of speech, of the press, of street demonstrations and protests, and anyone who is caught trying to suppress criticism of the government will be called to account. Whoa, that is wonderful stuff!”

“Of course,” Justice Scalia continued, “it’s just words on paper, what our framers would have called a ‘parchment guarantee.’ ”



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07 Feb 2012, 10:50 am

It lost appeal to our own government long long ago.



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07 Feb 2012, 11:16 am

Meh, it still gets talked about a lot.

Especially by gun-toters.



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07 Feb 2012, 4:16 pm

I am pleased to think that up here we have something of value to share with the world.

But the greatest value in Canadian constitutional law exists not in its text (other than section 1 of the Charter), but in the jurisprudence that has been developed around it. The balancing of constitutional text, executive and legislative actions and judicial decision making is an important praxis--one which "strict constructionists" are content to throw on the rubbish heap for political gain.


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08 Feb 2012, 7:50 am

Honestly - good.

I'm tired of people treating this 230 year old document as infallible and perfect. Even the authors would not claim such a thing.



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08 Feb 2012, 10:32 am

The tendency these days is toward more a less democratic states with extensive welfare provisions.

Historically the first major welfare state in Europe was Bismark's Germany which was NOT socialist. The idea was to have a well behaved working class which did not feel exploited and which did not have a tendency toward revolution. They way to keep the Proles happy is to provide the illusion that their risks are covered by funds raised out of general taxation. Schooling was provided at public expense to turn out well behaved students with bland non-inquisitive intellects. Everybody learned to read, write and to follow the rules.

I suspect any modern constitutions would provide for governments with extensive powers and large involvement in the private lives of their subjects.

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08 Feb 2012, 11:15 am

donnie_darko wrote:
Honestly - good.

I'm tired of people treating this 230 year old document as infallible and perfect. Even the authors would not claim such a thing.



Honestly it was barely adequate 230 years ago. It was the process in which they effectively had to keep taking out everything that really made it special in order to get a consensus among the 13 colonies.. what they would up with was a document that really didn't really guarantee any but the most basic rights. The fact that we have refused to update it with the times.. failed to incorporate things which to any sensible person should be inalienable rights.. is astounding..

I mean you don't see to many people bringing up the Magna Carta these days.. outside of a history class anyway..



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08 Feb 2012, 11:34 am

ruveyn wrote:
The tendency these days is toward more a less democratic states with extensive welfare provisions.

Historically the first major welfare state in Europe was Bismark's Germany which was NOT socialist. The idea was to have a well behaved working class which did not feel exploited and which did not have a tendency toward revolution. They way to keep the Proles happy is to provide the illusion that their risks are covered by funds raised out of general taxation. Schooling was provided at public expense to turn out well behaved students with bland non-inquisitive intellects. Everybody learned to read, write and to follow the rules.

I suspect any modern constitutions would provide for governments with extensive powers and large involvement in the private lives of their subjects.

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But what has socialism got to do with anything? The whole point behind a constitution that supports democratically elected government is that the consitution endures through changes of government and differing approaches to public policy.

The point behind a constitution is not to have a big government, or a small government or any particular size of government. Rather, it is to put a framework around government.


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08 Feb 2012, 12:23 pm

If the Constitution was the model for many governments, wouldn't that mean that government world-wide is losing appeal?



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08 Feb 2012, 12:57 pm

Another fairly unique thing about our constitution, that is often overlooked, is that it is designed to put limits on the government, not the people. Unfortunately, too many people try to turn this around.



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08 Feb 2012, 1:05 pm

rabbittss wrote:
I mean you don't see to many people bringing up the Magna Carta these days.. outside of a history class anyway..


Forgive the cynicism but it does crop up occasionally in Britain, usually in the form of a youtube video and usually followed by the speaker getting a kicking from the police.



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08 Feb 2012, 1:38 pm

visagrunt wrote:
But what has socialism got to do with anything? The whole point behind a constitution that supports democratically elected government is that the consitution endures through changes of government and differing approaches to public policy.

The point behind a constitution is not to have a big government, or a small government or any particular size of government. Rather, it is to put a framework around government.

ruveyn seems to be missing to address the claim in panda's quoted text that most of the new constitutions, including the Canadian one are becoming popular because they include more rights to people. I wonder how true is that. What is really true is that US constitution does not have much on human rights pledge which most of the democratic constitutions follow by default.


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08 Feb 2012, 1:48 pm

DC wrote:
rabbittss wrote:
I mean you don't see to many people bringing up the Magna Carta these days.. outside of a history class anyway..


Forgive the cynicism but it does crop up occasionally in Britain, usually in the form of a youtube video and usually followed by the speaker getting a kicking from the police.


Well I was speaking strictly in a US context. When I was younger, we actually studied it quite closely in School. The thinking went that it was the precursor to our own constitution so we needed to know about it..

Now, It's not getting brought up in a college level course on US government.. isn't even mentioned in the book. The whole book is all about civil rights and protesting and what have you.. It really shows just how irrelevant these hundreds of years old pieces of paper actually are to every day life..



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08 Feb 2012, 1:59 pm

Bataar wrote:
Another fairly unique thing about our constitution, that is often overlooked, is that it is designed to put limits on the government, not the people. Unfortunately, too many people try to turn this around.


Well it's not doing a very good job. Hey, you're in Seattle, what do you think of the Cascadia movement?



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08 Feb 2012, 2:04 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
The point behind a constitution is not to have a big government, or a small government or any particular size of government. Rather, it is to put a framework around government.

ruveyn seems to be missing to address the claim in panda's quoted text that most of the new constitutions, including the Canadian one are becoming popular because they include more rights to people. I wonder how true is that. What is really true is that US constitution does not have much on human rights pledge which most of the democratic constitutions follow by default.[/quote]

Natural Rights were presumed by the people who wrote the Constitution. They hesitated enumerating rights because any rights not on the list would be disparaged.

See what the ninth amendment has to say:

Text of Amendment:

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


Now look at this:
Why This Amendment Exists:

When the Bill of Rights was first proposed, the major argument against it was that by specifying some rights that the government was not free to violate, there would be the implication that the government was free to violate any rights not specifically protected in the Constitution. The Ninth Amendment was written to address this concern.


The assumption is what is contained in the Declaration of Independence (which is not law, by the way): All men have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as well as the right to their bodily integrity and privacy. The 4 th amendment adumbrates a right to privacy that was assumed to exist.

In short the government was not supposed to intrude on our body parts and personal privacy.

Compare that to what happens at airports these days with their damned X-ray machines.

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08 Feb 2012, 3:01 pm

It depends on how one views the roll of government in our lives. The constitution is unpopular today with those that want larger government. As I was reading earlier this morning the founders created the Constitution with limited government in mind. That does not sit will with some.

"Our Constitution Is The Best Model A Country Could Have"

http://news.investors.com/Article/60044 ... offers.htm

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...The Constitution doesn't seem to be of much use to Barack Obama, either. The president who also thinks U.S. power and prestige are no longer what they were, and aren't that important anyway, recently lamented that the Founders "designed a system that makes it more difficult to bring about change than I would like sometimes."

Obviously the framers failed to carve out enough power for the "I" branch of the government to suit him.

A lack of respect for the Constitution isn't peculiar to Obama. It's shared among Democrats, in particular, even Democrat-appointed Supreme Court jurists.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a Clinton appointee, said last week on Egyptian television that if she were drafting a constitution in the year 2012, she wouldn't look to ours.

She reportedly recommended the South African Constitution, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms or the European Convention on Human Rights.

These documents are awash in enumerated rights, but enumerated rights are not the gold standard. Roger Pilon, constitutional scholar at the Cato Institute, contends the more important characteristic of a nation's founding charter is how it limits government.

"The framers protected rights mainly by limiting power," he said. "That's why they didn't think a bill of rights was even needed."

A look at the constitutions recommended by Ginsburg reveals that some of the "rights" they secure aren't in fact natural rights at all but licenses to plunder. The "right" to food or health care can be provided only when someone else's right to the fruits of his labor or the use of his property has to be violated.

We're not ashamed to declare the U.S. Constitution a magnificent document that, along with the Declaration of Independence, forms the greatest national charter in human history.

No other document has ever guarded freedom the way it has, and no other contract has provided such a foundation for prosperity. It's not perfect, but it's as close to perfect as man has come.