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donnie_darko
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10 Feb 2012, 2:35 pm

Most Canadians want the death penalty back!

http://www.canada.com/news/Most+Canadia ... story.html

I'm not sure if this is Harper propaganda or truth. I've heard mixed things about the public opinion of Canadians on bringing back the death penalty. What I have heard varies from hardly anyone in Canada supports the death penalty to most people actually quietly want it back. Canadians do tend to complain about their justice system, just like they complain about their health care, but at the same time I don't think most of them would want either system to be changed to emulate the USA more. I think it's kind of like how people tend to complain about their parents even though they love them.

The fact they continue to take these polls, even though Canada hasn't had a death penalty for three and a half decades, makes me wonder if their government is considering bringing it back. They are considering legalizing interrogative torture and no longer protect their citizens abroad when they were facing the death penalty in other countries. They also are interested in becoming an oil power with the whole tar sands thing.

I love Canada. It sucks seeing them moving in this direction, trying to become more like the USA. I thought they had their sh*t together.



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10 Feb 2012, 3:27 pm

Why are you against the death penalty?



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10 Feb 2012, 3:30 pm

So a few baby-rapers and mother-stabbers get offed ... the Great White North will be a better place for it!



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10 Feb 2012, 3:30 pm

Burzum wrote:
Why are you against the death penalty?


The idea of 'good people' being so hateful, even if it's towards hateful people, is revolting to me.



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10 Feb 2012, 3:31 pm

donnie_darko wrote:
Burzum wrote:
Why are you against the death penalty?
The idea of 'good people' being so hateful, even if it's towards hateful people, is revolting to me.

The idea of my taxes going to keep someone like Charles Manson alive and well when he should have been executed decades ago is revolting to me, so what of it?



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10 Feb 2012, 3:33 pm

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The idea of my taxes going to keep someone like Charles Manson alive and well when he should have been executed decades ago is revolting to me, so what of it?


Does keeping him alive bother you more than the fact that your taxes cause innocent children in the Middle East to die? I just don't think it's that relevant. So what if 0.01 cents of your money is going to feed Charlie.



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10 Feb 2012, 3:34 pm

I'd like to hear what some of our resident Canadians think of this though. Does it sound accurate to you or false propaganda?



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10 Feb 2012, 3:35 pm

donnie_darko wrote:
Fnord wrote:
The idea of my taxes going to keep someone like Charles Manson alive and well when he should have been executed decades ago is revolting to me, so what of it?
Does keeping him alive bother you more than the fact that your taxes cause innocent children in the Middle East to die? I just don't think it's that relevant. So what if 0.01 cents of your money is going to feed Charlie.

So what if someone you've never met gets a bullet that wasn't meant for you?



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10 Feb 2012, 3:43 pm

human bias means that anyone supporting any current system of death penalties will support the killing of innocent people as well.

in principe i dont care if a serial killer or child rapist gets killed, to me there just snt an acceptable loss to make sure it happens, one innocent person killed is one too many.


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10 Feb 2012, 3:49 pm

donnie_darko wrote:
The idea of 'good people' being so hateful, even if it's towards hateful people, is revolting to me.

It revolts you that I am hateful towards people like Josef Fritzl? Why?

donnie_darko wrote:
Does keeping him alive bother you more than the fact that your taxes cause innocent children in the Middle East to die? I just don't think it's that relevant.

What isn't relevant is innocent people dying in the Middle East. Yes, the war is wrong and immoral, but how is that relevant to capital punishment?

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So what if 0.01 cents of your money is going to feed Charlie.

Charlie is just one among many.



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10 Feb 2012, 3:50 pm

Burzum wrote:
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So what if 0.01 cents of your money is going to feed Charlie.
Charlie is just one among many.

TOO many...



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10 Feb 2012, 3:55 pm

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It revolts you that I am hateful towards people like Josef Fritzl? Why?


Well, frankly yes. He is mentally disturbed. Hate is unnecessary. Now that's not to say he should be a free man.



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10 Feb 2012, 9:35 pm

The death penalty in general has always been pretty popular especially nowadays with the paranoia of modern living.

I remember a few years ago here in Wisconsin, they had a non-binding referendum on the ballot about whether we should reinstate in the death penalty and it passed by a good margin. Wisconsin only had 1 execution in it's history and abolished capital punishment in 1853.

People usually vote with their pocket book in mind and are generally more socially conservative than most people would expect. That's why you see typically 'liberal' areas vote(or poll) to reinstate capital punishment or ban gay marriage.



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10 Feb 2012, 9:44 pm

Well I'm not surprised that Quebec is the most against it. As a Quebecker I am also of that mindset. The death penalty is really not that much of a deterrent. If it was I'm sure America would be the most peaceful place on Earth. Since there is no such thing as eternal punishment, I prefer that punishment is drawn out for brutal crimes, rather than giving a quick end they may have denied to their victim

Why Harper thinks anything US-style is good is beyond me. The US prison system is an utter failure. Most US policies seem to be failures. There is really nothing we can learn from the US at this point. Its not even about left or right. I'm sure many American conservatives would agree with me about the prison system


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10 Feb 2012, 10:05 pm

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Does keeping him alive bother you more than the fact that your taxes cause innocent children in the Middle East to die? So what if 0.01 cents of your money is going to feed Charlie.


Those children in the middle east can thank their national leaders for their deaths, not the American taxpayer.
The fact that you call that turd “Charlie” speaks volumes about your values.

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I'd like to hear what some of our resident Canadians think of this though. Does it sound accurate to you or false propaganda?


As usual, they’re too busy criticizing the United States and telling us how to run it to take the time for this thread.



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10 Feb 2012, 10:41 pm

donnie_darko wrote:
Burzum wrote:
Why are you against the death penalty?


The idea of 'good people' being so hateful, even if it's towards hateful people, is revolting to me.


Wow, I agree with you for once!

Mass, hysterical cries for vengeance are one of the most disturbing things in existence.


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