What's you're biggest (Progressive) grievance with Obama?

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What's you're biggest progressive grievance with Obama?
His feckless compromising with the Ultra-far Right Republicans. 32%  32%  [ 9 ]
His willingness to throw progressives under the bus after the rightwing smear machine whines. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
His depedence on bankster backers. 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
His codification & expansion of Dubya's civil liberties abuses. 18%  18%  [ 5 ]
His way too small & tax-cut heavy stimulus. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
His expansion of the Military-industrial complex & militarism. 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
Other 11%  11%  [ 3 ]
I'm a rightwinger! 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
Just show me the results 18%  18%  [ 5 ]
Total votes : 28

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10 Feb 2012, 1:50 am

Okay, left-progressives, there's a lot to be angry with the conceder in chief about. What's you're "beef"?


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10 Feb 2012, 4:35 am

his quasi-clintonian "triangulation" gets old after a while.



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10 Feb 2012, 5:08 am

auntblabby wrote:
his quasi-clintonian "triangulation" gets old after a while.


Especially when such triangulation involves Wall Street giveaways.

He is, at best, a mediocre president. He demonstrates that, if all you care about is political maneuvering, then your political career can survive. But the mediocrity will be with you forever.



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10 Feb 2012, 11:18 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
Okay, left-progressives, there's a lot to be angry with the conceder in chief about. What's you're "beef"?


If you Lefties were p*ssed off about how Bush and Company favored the Bankers and Financial types, you should be livid with rage at the way Obama and Company has been far more generous than Bush and his buddies. Obama is in bed with the same dudes that caused the financial melt down in the first place.

If I were a Liberal pinko stinko Commie lover, I would be making wax images of Obama and sticking pins into them.

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10 Feb 2012, 11:20 am

Mr. Obama has not exposed the NAACP for being a self-serving tool of the ethnic liberal elite. At least his election took a lot of the wind and bluster out of Jesse Jackson's vitriolic rhetoric.



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10 Feb 2012, 12:40 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gstBozWfhQ[/youtube]


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10 Feb 2012, 12:58 pm

Obama doesn't compromise with neo-cons, he is a neo-con.



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10 Feb 2012, 5:05 pm

1, 3, and 4.



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10 Feb 2012, 5:22 pm

"The fact that he calls himself liberal" wasn't an option. :?



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11 Feb 2012, 2:37 am

but given the choice between obama and those reincarnated feudal lords and robber barons all running against him, i must vote for him. now if ralph nader were the democratic nominee... :idea:
it can never be better than choosing "the lesser of two evils" in this country. :roll:



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11 Feb 2012, 4:15 am

I don't think there is a lesser of two evils - just the less annoying of two evils. Both parties essentially do the same things, they just put a different spin on the whole process. Also, one party doesn't have Sarah Palin in it, so I suppose that counts for something.... :?


With Obama, however, the joke seems to remain unfunny no matter how many bad policy decisions he makes - yet he keeps talking like a progressive in his speeches. It's a strange quandary - will Americans vote for him based on what he says, or what he's done in the next election?



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11 Feb 2012, 4:34 am

obama must work within the center-right framework of this country's psychology. even nixon was more liberal when faced with a relatively liberal congress. so would obama be more liberal if the bluedogs and tea partiers were out of the picture. but i shudder to think how much worse things would be for the working class, if the repubs controlled all 3 branches of government. there would be absolutely no hope that life could be better- life in america [for all but those swimming in $$$$$] would be not worth a bucket of warm piss, if the voting public were all permanently herded into the teaparty camp. a life without pensions, without social security/medicare/medicaid, without social mobility, without protection from the wealthy/powerful, would be no better than that for a serf in feudal days. to avoid outright teaparty tyranny, there has got to be a persistent opposition. i've only got one vote to play around with, and no way will i vote to slit my own throat. the democratic party is the only arrow i have in my quiver with which to defend myself against the pitchforked tea party hordes with the flaming torches.



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11 Feb 2012, 4:47 am

The tea-party is a scary gathering of strange quasi-political meandering, and I share the same concerns over the working-class. I just don't think the Democrats have the interests of the working class in mind any more than the Republicans do. It's a travesty we have no decent choices but "slowly bleeding out" and "less slowly bleeding out."

Tax rates for working class families are still stifling, and social mobility is a horizon many of those families hold little hope of ever crossing (I know - I'm stuck in that hopeless cycle right now, as is my best friend and his family). Price inflation is on the rise, tuition inflation is on the rise, general cost-of-living is on the rise and Obama hasn't really done much other than spin platitudes and restrict civil liberties, drop cluster bombs on urban centers, and order drone strikes on middle-easterners. Not much positive to be said for the democratic process in America these days.



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11 Feb 2012, 10:05 am

auntblabby wrote:
now if ralph nader were the democratic nominee... :idea:


If only...



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11 Feb 2012, 12:05 pm

auntblabby wrote:
but given the choice between obama and those reincarnated feudal lords and robber barons all running against him, i must vote for him. now if ralph nader were the democratic nominee... :idea:
it can never be better than choosing "the lesser of two evils" in this country. :roll:


Ralph is a sour puss and a killjoy. And he has no qualifications for the job of POTUS.

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12 Feb 2012, 4:20 am

^^^
and shrub did? :huh: