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04 Mar 2012, 4:29 pm

The reason I call it this is b/c I believe it's called "Everything's Happening For a Reason" theory.

The statement "everything happens for a reason" is what prompted me to delve further into this theory. As well as the application of combining sciences w/i a society in hopes for a different ideology, as I'm sure you might have seen with the Junta/Chicago boys in Chile and Argentina.

If we applied the theory that the universe (is) the Koch Snowflake, and that (you) as a person consciencely exist w/i the middle of the snowflake. If all of your interactions affect those around you, then those individuals form new subsections of the snowflake or 'triangles'. This would suggest that you are at the center of the universe. Which would also suggest that you are important, and would also support Ghandi's quote "What you do in life is unimportant, but it's important you do it.".

Which would also suggest everything does happen for a reason, but of course evidence would have us look back at history and only then, can we ask ourselves this question:

Who started the snowflake?

It has become a question of who is at the center of our planned interactions, rather than a debate as to whether or not someone is or is not planning our destiny's.

When I say 'who' I am referring to an individual or a group of individuals who have decided to pursue an ideology since the beginning of capitalism's erection.

It has to have been born since the birth of capitalism, b/c capitalism is the only ideology w/ individuals act w/i their own self interests, w/ in turn will lead other individuals to act in their own self interests as well.

If the creator of the snowflake had a collectivist ideology in mind, then our interactions would not be able to form individually, or as subsections (triangles) but as a circle, moving in a circular motion consistently.



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04 Mar 2012, 4:36 pm

EHFAR

Or, causality? There is a cause for everything.

Usually people who say EHFAR are referring a to a sort of supernatural sort of plan. Searching for order or hope in seemingly tragic and senseless circumstances. Or, they are hoping unforseen future benefits will arise from an undesireable circumstance. EHFAR is aligned with the every cloud has a silver lining school of thinking. Maybe the silver lining are the snowflakes that will be precipitated, making for good sledding.



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04 Mar 2012, 4:37 pm

Catarina wrote:
EHFAH

Or, causality? There is a cause for everything.

Usually people who say EHFAR are referring a to a sort of supernatural sort of plan. Searching for order or hope in seemingly tragic and senseless circumstances. Or, they are hoping unforseen future benefits will arise from an undesireable circumstance. EHFAR is aligned with the every cloud has a silver lining school of thinking.


Who said that this had an optimistic view to it?

You could look at it as causality but that would discredit the theory that it evolved at the birth of capitalism rather than the beginning of time.



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04 Mar 2012, 4:49 pm

I don't know whether EHFAR is professed negatively.

Over my years of adulthood, I have heard many people express the EHFAR belief. Without exception it has been used optimistically. Perhaps to comfort a distressed person, or to explain in a positive way frustated hopes and dreams.

EHFAR involves many elements of classic fatalism which certainly pre-date modern capitalism.



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04 Mar 2012, 4:50 pm

Our planet, sun and galaxy are part of a system which interacts with other systems to form clusters and superclusters of galaxies which themselves assemble into long filaments which create the largest "structures" in the universe. But the Copernican principle doesn't place us at the center of the universe or consider us to be at an especially important location in that structure. So why assume that any particular cell of an abstract snowflake like social structure is the "center" or of any particular importance?

And why is capitalism the only system where individuals pursue their own self-interest? Feudalism kept the king and nobles pretty well fed, and did preserve a certain level of order for the weak. Almost every system has avenues to pursue self-interest though it's never perfect.

The conclusion totally lost me.



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04 Mar 2012, 8:11 pm

Everything that has happened since the Big Bang has a cause.

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