What is the ultimate goal of the multicultural movement?

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Is multiculturalism simply about acceptance? Or is it about promoting or even enforcing plurality?

Is multiculturalism only for Europe and the New World, or is the idea to eventually spread the concept to Asia and Africa?

Is multiculturalism about making geographic identity no longer relevant? Is it about protecting cultural diversity, or melting everyone into a mix of all the world's cultures so there is no more division between cultures anymore?

hmm don't have answers to all those questions. Here "tolerance" is promoted, along with "assimilation", both of which I think is stupid.

You can "tolerate" someone in the same room as you and still hate their guts.

"Assimilation" is basically saying, if you're not like us, you won't be accepted and you won't succeed. It's a way of enforcing the dominant culture and shoving it down peoples throats.

I think acceptance is called for. If more people were accepted, they would integrate with society as much as they needed to and still maintain their own culture otherwise, like at home.

I don't think it's about making geographic identity no longer relevant, but rather managing to accept and understand and have empathy for other cultures while still maintaining your own. It would open up people to perspectives they haven't heard or considered before and can be a great opportunity to learn.

I think it would be a much better way of promoting other cultures and especially immigrants than the current way they have of doing it here (in Australia). I guess that would be true of most places in the world. Division does not have to mean conflict or tension, only if you make it that way.

I wouldn't want to have only one world culture. I think that would be boring if so much diversity were lost. Diversity and division can be good things, if you choose to deal with them in a healthy and constructive manner.

You should come to Northern England. We have the "Asian" areas, the "Polish" areas and the white areas. I feel like a foreigner in my own land when I visit the "Asian" and "Polish" areas. It's not like there is a general melting pot atmosphere - mass immigration has been forced on us. The Muslims and the whites often don't mix with one another (outside of work) but the Polish do a little more.

Multiculturalism has been a massive failure in Europe. It has engendered and fostered bitterness and segregation in most areas of life. It has lead to riots, attacks and murders. It is time to bring it to an end.



This is what every sensible country in the world does. If you want to live here, you must accept the basic tenets of our culture. It's not rocket science.

How should we deal with people who have cultural attitudes that are alien and are in fact actively hostile to our own? The multicultural left have done a lot to foster this kind of nonsense, but their behaviour (and those of their pets) cannot be talked about in public without the inevitable accusations of racism.

With multiculturalism, tolerance is only one way. We are forced to tolerate intolerance, in the form of honour killings, bigotry towards gays, their disgusting views on women (including sex gangs). This isn't on. Essentially, certain groups have had their behaviour excused, enabled, hidden or downplayed in the name of 'tolerance'.

Don't worry, we've had our own race riots here. And many Suburbs and areas segregate themselves also, I am familiar with it.

First basic rule : If someone is going to move to a country, they should accept the basic tenets of the country and culture in which they have chosen to move to. If they disagree, with that cultures basic tenets, then they should be moving somewhere that they can accept those things.

The acceptance and understanding should go both ways. Otherwise we end up in situations like you describe.

I am advocating that both sides, both the people who already live there and the people choosing to move there, should be accepting and understanding of each others cultures. One side should not be more important than the other, whether that's a minority or the majority.

I am not sure, but I do know that pop culture has been making the traditions and arts of indigenous cultures disappear with each new generation. The traditions and arts in some of these cultures are beautiful and once they are gone and J-lo and (insert various rapper here) takes their place, the world will have lost a cultural gem to self serving musical millionaires and the media empires. If I had money and could do what I wanted to, I would travel the world learning the endangered arts of indigenous cultures and then teach them to other people to keep them alive, so when someday the roudy children of these cultures settle down, they can still preserve the arts of their ancestors. Some arts go back as far as the neolithic period and are being wiped out by pop culture embraced by the younger generations. Some are so complex,that once the older generation dies, no one will know how to create these things.
I think we have much to learn from them, much more than what our media empire can give them.

I will go as far to say we need more than tolerance, assimilation, even acceptance of each other's culture...we need respect. Acceptance is good but we need to be mindful that no one loses their culture to another, but that both cultures are equally respected and allowed to thrive.

So respect in some ways is counter to multiculturalism because it doesnt require assimilation to be in social harmony with different cultures.

Jojo

The real problem is more the élite rather than the immigrants themselves.

Nobody is saying that Africa needs diversity.
Nobody is saying that Asia needs diversity.
They are already 100% diverse.
People are only telling White children in White countries that they need diversity.
White Countries will be 100% diverse when there are no White people left.
Diversity is a code-word for White genocide; anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

Which nation is White?

ruveyn

South Africa struggles with multiculturalism issues every day. But in general it's only the places with high immigration rates that need to deal with it. People will go where the wealth is so that may include waves of western immigrants to China at some point. Then they can join the club.

Why do you ask that? What answer are you expecting and what response are you intending to make?

I do not know of a single White nation on earth. Every nation has some kind of mix of races and cultures. Even the U.S. which is majority "white" is not a White nation.

ruveyn

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I would think that the USA would be a bad example of a white nation, given its native American heritage and diverse racial demographics.

I don't think that a very small amount of racial diversity disqualifies a nation from being considered racially homogenous. And racial diversity is entirely irrelevant if you are defining a nation as white based on its heritage.

No such thing as White country?

Meanwhile back on planet earth, You and your anti-White buddies have clearly defined the “GROUP” White Countries. White countries are the GROUP that has an obligation to import huge numbers of third world immigrants.

General Wesley Clark: “There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states” Notice that he did not say: “There is no place in this WORLD for ethnically pure states”

Only in the “GROUP” White countries is this is happening; only liberals and respectable conservatives are pushing it, ONLY White children are suffering because of it.

You say you are anti-racist. What you are is anti-White.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

I don't have a problem with the idea of 'immigration'
White people have ALWAYS travelled between White countries.

The problem is that EVERY White country,and ONLY White countries are flooded with people from the 3rd World who we're expected to 'assimilate'
to turn EVERY White country into a 'melting pot' of 'blended humanity'
Nowhere is an all White anything allowed to exist,under International Law that's GENOCIDE

When China decided it was time for Tibet to 'embrace Diversity' the entire World,quite correctly screamed GENOCIDE,but somehow when it's a White country like Australia,New Zealand,Canada,USA or anywhere in Europe then all of a sudden it's not GENOCIDE but 'multicultural-ism' and 'Diversity' ?

Which non-White populations need to 'mix' and 'blend' their countries out of existence,in the name of 'Diversity' and 'anti-racism',
or is 'Anti-racism' just a codeword for Anti-White,like one of the other guys posted ?