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but does anyone else think if jesus was a real person..he may have been an early Aspie? I have been against organised religion all my life....but theoretically... him being the 'son of man' could have been his take on his condition etc....as in a genetic mutation that made him feel different....obviously the 'fathers' weren't too impressed with the idea as such at the time...

Also it seems while he was a non-judgemental/unconditional type of chap...to let all that stuff happen to him....the bible (written by the 'fathers' was the opposite and preached a judging god....cos they didn't quite get where he was coming from..)

also.....maybe now since there r lots of Aspie's.... the 'holy ghost' is the internet....which connects us all together

whatcha think guys?

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I think that I have a high level of tolerence, but I also think that trying to link AS to every single thing under the sun is getting to be really ridiculous. No offence.

no public offence taken, i'll just die a little on the inside, tis just that it is an interesting phenomenon...the mind wanders in all sorts of areas into what could be/have been..

There is plenty of historical evidence to affirm that Jesus existed, and I will post some of it below, along with historical evidence that Pontius Pilate, the fellow who ordered Jesus's cruxifiction, existed. (They found Pontius Pilate's tomb.)

To answer your question though, we can only speculate. but since Jesus was appointed to save all of humanity, it stands to reason that there was a little of every man (and woman) in Jesus so that people with open minds could find something to relate to in Him, and so that they would then be more open to hearing His word.

Evidence for Jesus's existence:

http://www.jesus-institute.org/life-of- ... itus.shtml

Tacitus: "Annals" 15.44.2-8 Circa 115 AD

"Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome..."

http://www.jesus-institute.org/life-of- ... phus.shtml

Josephus: "Jewish Antiquities." Circa 93 AD

"So he assembled the sanhedrim of judges, and brought before them the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James, and some others; and when he had formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law, he delivered them to be stoned..."

http://www.jesus-institute.org/life-of- ... phus.shtml

Josephus: "Jewish Antiquities." Circa 93 AD

"Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, (if it be lawful to call him a man,) for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. (He was the Christ;) and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, (for he appeared to them alive again the third day,) as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct to this day." Note: Interpolations, possibly added by others, are indicated in parenthesis."

http://www.catholictruths.com/articles/ ... e.html#one

Pliny the Younger: Letter of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan Circa A.D. 112

"They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food--but food of an ordinary and innocent kind."

http://www.catholictruths.com/articles/ ... e.html#one

"Babylonian Talmud" Circa AD 70-500

On the eve of the Passover Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald . . . cried, "He is going forth to be stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy."

http://www.catholictruths.com/articles/ ... e.html#one

Lucian of Samosata

The Christians . . . worship a man to this day--the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account. . . . [It] was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws.

Evidence for the existence of Pontius Pilate:

http://www.bible-history.com/empires/pilate.html

Inscription

Line One: "TIBERIEUM,," Line Two: "(PON) TIUS" Line Three: "(PRAEF) ECTUS IUDA (EAE)" In June 1961 Italian archaeologists led by Dr. Frova were excavating an ancient Roman amphitheatre near Caesarea-on-the-Sea (Maritima) and uncovered this interesting limestone block. On the face is a monumental inscription which is part of a larger dedication to Tiberius Caesar which clearly says that it was from "Pontius Pilate, Prefect of Judea." Caesarea, Israel New Testament Period Pontius Pilate, (26-37 AD) Limestone, inscribed 82.0 cm H, 65.0 cm W Building Dedication 4 Lines of Writing (Latin) Date of Discovery: 1961 Israel Museum (Jerusalem) AE 1963 no. 104

http://www.bible-history.com/empires/pilate.html

"The Standards" - Josephus, War 2.169-174, Antiq 18.55-59

"On one occasion, when the soldiers under his command came to Jerusalem, he caused them to bring with them their ensigns, upon which were the usual images of the emperor. The ensigns were brought in privily by night, put their presence was soon discovered. Immediately multitudes of excited Jews hastened to Caesarea to petition him for the removal of the obnoxious ensigns. For five days he refused to hear them, but on the sixth he took his place on the judgment seat, and when the Jews were admitted he had them surrounded with soldiers and threatened them with instant death unless they ceased to trouble him with the matter. The Jews thereupon flung themselves on the ground and bared their necks, declaring that they preferred death to the violation of their laws. Pilate, unwilling to slay so many, yielded the point and removed the ensigns."

http://www.bible-history.com/empires/pilate.html

"The Aqueduct"- Josephus, War 2.175-177, Antiq 18.60-62)

"At another time he used the sacred treasure of the temple, called corban (qorban), to pay for bringing water into Jerusalem by an aqueduct. A crowd came together and clamored against him; but he had caused soldiers dressed as civilians to mingle with the multitude, and at a given signal they fell upon the rioters and beat them so severely with staves that the riot was quelled."

International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia

Philo (Legatio ad Caium, xxxviii)

"Philo tells us (Legatio ad Caium, xxxviii) that on other occasion he dedicated some gilt shields in the palace of Herod in honor of the emperor. On these shields there was no representation of any forbidden thing, but simply an inscription of the name of the donor and of him in whose honor they were set up. The Jews petitioned him to have them removed; when he refused, they appealed to Tiberius, who sent an order that they should be removed to Caesarea."