Why having universal healthcare in America would be bad

Post Reply New Topic

i do not know if you pay attention to world events but Europe is about to go bankrupt because of socialist programs like health care. By all means lets be the idiots that jump off the bridge as well. The epa and osha are larger than ever in this coumtry and fining the s**t out of people sending work to unions that lobby and pay towards the liberal agenda. Why because one day in the liberal play book everything will be unionized sounds like comunism to me.

Oh yeah back to how it affects our pockets. Health insurance has gone up 30% for my company and most other companies i know. employees now have to pay a portion of their insurance and ultimately will get smaller increases in pay due to obamacare. Now if you do not think this goes across society you are mistaken hence unemployment at an all time high. Do you realize that unemployment is actualy 15-20% because when people stop looking for jobs they no longer count. If you think it is free you are mistaken someone has to pay is the point. In addition there is a 2500 dollar fine for not having insurance which will ultimately land you in jail if you cant pay.
Finally legalizing illegals do you understand the motive? Once the liberals can get enough dependent people they can declare themselves dictators. Once again sounds retro Germany dawn of Hitler to me.

They are going broke because of the global economic meltdown caused by markets trading worthless pieces of paper. They've had social welfare programs in place for decades without much trouble until Americans invented things like paperless credit default swaps. They've also suffered some idiotic leadership - under which, for instance, Iceland wound up with a lot of its public assets sold off, even the rights to its fishing grounds which are the historic basis of its economy. It's not socialization - which was working - but capitalization and privatization - which are now killing those economies.

jesus not the communist conspiracy again??

I am not jesus

You are not Jesus? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

i do apologise, let me rephrase:

Delphiki, not the communist conspiracy again??

US unfunded liabilities represented in $100 notes

I agree with this, plus health care in the US is the most expensive in the world. One of the reasons for this is because of the insurance companies--they have to make a profit, so we end up paying for the billing departments in hospitals and doctor's offices (that haggle with insurance companies), as well as the profit for insurance companies.

If we had a single payer system, then we would no longer have to pay 20% more for the billing departments hagglers--and it would drive the costs down, as pharmaceuticals and other medical supplies are less expensive when purchased in larger quantities, and a single, government-run health insurance program would enable us to get a better deal than (edit: what is with my then/than grammar errors lately?) individuals or individual insurance companies.

The only problem I see with this, is that we already have people struggling to keep their jobs, and a single payer system would knock insurance company jobs down--though they could be replaced with govt. jobs.

ridicoulous, there are plenty of european nations that weathered the financial storm quite well compared to the us.

The problem in Europe is the Euro - a Mengerian (Menger was the godfather of Austrian economics) de-facto gold standard of a currency. With a real currency, the EU states would not have any problems with possible default.

So0cialized medicine is in the bible.

It is listed as an abomination.

ruveyn

It was called a tithe.

Jesus was a socialist

Not so. In the parable of the Talents he bad-mouthed the one who did not earn a profit.

ruveyn

that however has nothing to do with being a socialist in the modern sense of the word though.