Bad things that could happen if marijuana was legalized?

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10 Jul 2012, 12:57 pm

What are some bad thing that could happen if marijuana was legalized?

-Cartels could start pushing stronger drugs such as meth and crack cocaine to keep their profits up.
-Possibly more accidents that lead to emergency rooms and similar issues.
-How would someone be tested for driving while high? If someone (probably just people that smoked it a lot) were tested they would test positive even if it was a few weeks ago that they smoked marijuana.
-More teenagers would start smoking pot (or less, wasn't sure I should add that one because people are unsure of that one either way)

If medical marijuana was made legal what would stop everyone with a backache to get access?

And that was all I could think of easily. The first and third I feel are valid reasons for opposition (or more research into the third one before legalization). Now most people that oppose legalization don't use reasoning, just faulty background knowledge. (In case anyone doesn't know from my past posts, I am pro-legalization)


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10 Jul 2012, 12:59 pm

The worst thing of all. The smell. It will cause medical costs to increase on the long term, chronic smokers who have no reason to not smoke a ton of weed. It will be no worse than alcohol in terms of intoxication rates.



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10 Jul 2012, 1:02 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
The worst thing of all. The smell. It will cause medical costs to increase on the long term, chronic smokers who have no reason to not smoke a ton of weed. It will be no worse than alcohol in terms of intoxication rates.
How do you know that? Possibly people would drink less and smoke pot more. Besides smoke inhalation what are the long term effects? There are ways such as edibles that would still give people the high without the smoke inhalation.


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10 Jul 2012, 1:03 pm

Delphiki wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
The worst thing of all. The smell. It will cause medical costs to increase on the long term, chronic smokers who have no reason to not smoke a ton of weed. It will be no worse than alcohol in terms of intoxication rates.
How do you know that? Possibly people would drink less and smoke pot more. Besides smoke inhalation what are the long term effects? There are ways such as edibles that would still give people the high without the smoke inhalation.

It causes cancer.



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10 Jul 2012, 1:06 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Delphiki wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
The worst thing of all. The smell. It will cause medical costs to increase on the long term, chronic smokers who have no reason to not smoke a ton of weed. It will be no worse than alcohol in terms of intoxication rates.
How do you know that? Possibly people would drink less and smoke pot more. Besides smoke inhalation what are the long term effects? There are ways such as edibles that would still give people the high without the smoke inhalation.

It causes cancer.
:roll: remember the faulty background knowledge I mentioned in the OP? I said BESIDES smoke inhalation (which can, another word for sometimes, cause cancer) what are some long term effects of using marijuana?


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10 Jul 2012, 1:08 pm

Delphiki wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Delphiki wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
The worst thing of all. The smell. It will cause medical costs to increase on the long term, chronic smokers who have no reason to not smoke a ton of weed. It will be no worse than alcohol in terms of intoxication rates.
How do you know that? Possibly people would drink less and smoke pot more. Besides smoke inhalation what are the long term effects? There are ways such as edibles that would still give people the high without the smoke inhalation.

It causes cancer.
:roll: remember the faulty background knowledge I mentioned in the OP? I said BESIDES smoke inhalation (which can, another word for sometimes, cause cancer) what are some long term effects of using marijuana?

This is why it would cause medical costs to go up. However, if people take pills, not sure what the implications are there. I see no harm in them popping a marijuana pill.



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10 Jul 2012, 1:12 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
This is why it would cause medical costs to go up. However, if people take pills, not sure what the implications are there. I see no harm in them popping a marijuana pill.
But there are ways to get high from marijuana without smoking it or taking pills, such as ingesting it. Marijuana pills have the nice bonus of side effects! If marijuana was legal there is a possiblility that people would drink less alcohol, in that way medical costs would go down.
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10 Jul 2012, 1:16 pm

I don't know if they would drink less. People like the mystique of alcohol and some would drink and ingest pot at the same time or on different days. Yep, brownies are another option. Just whatever so long as it's not smoking.



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10 Jul 2012, 1:24 pm

Delphiki wrote:
:roll: remember the faulty background knowledge I mentioned in the OP? I said BESIDES smoke inhalation (which can, another word for sometimes, cause cancer) what are some long term effects of using marijuana?


My medical view is that the big one is immune suppression. There are two primary sites for cannabinoid receptors: neurons and leukocytes. Prolonged exposure to cannabinoids--whether infused, ingested or injected--can diminish immune response both to infection and to neoplasia.

Also, I think that you are missing an essential issue around organized crime involvement post-legalization. Legal producers are compelled to comply with regulatory requirements: employment standards and taxation being principal among them. Illegal producers need comply with neither, and that means that even in a legal growing environment, why would any of today's industrial producers seek to go legal? They are already producing on an industrial scale, so clearly the threat of legal sanction does not present an impediment. So why would you suddently start paying your workers by cheque, submitting source deductions, paying Worker's Compensation premiums, and all of the other regulatory impositions on employers? Why would you start paying taxes on your profits?

The illegal producers will continue to produce illegally, and they will be readily able to undercut the legal producers on price. The only market for legally produced marijuana will be the pharmaceutical market.

As for medical marijuana, why would you pay three times the price for prescription pot at a pharmacy, when you can go to a dealer down the street or down the hall who will sell you a bag?

Legalization will not get organized crime out of the production and distribution of marijuana, and it will not lead to new tax revenue for government. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be legalized--but let's disabuse ourselves of these as affirmative reasons for doing so.


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10 Jul 2012, 2:18 pm

Nothing bad would happen, literally nothing.



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10 Jul 2012, 3:02 pm

YES! If Marijuana is legalized, there will be earthquakes everywhere, volcanoes will appear in all major cities and demon possessions will occur way more than cancer.

This is a joke by the way.

Delphiki wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
This is why it would cause medical costs to go up. However, if people take pills, not sure what the implications are there. I see no harm in them popping a marijuana pill.
But there are ways to get high from marijuana without smoking it or taking pills, such as ingesting it. Marijuana pills have the nice bonus of side effects! If marijuana was legal there is a possiblility that people would drink less alcohol, in that way medical costs would go down.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAsAxBdC3XE&feature=colike[/youtube]


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10 Jul 2012, 3:08 pm

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If medical marijuana was made legal what would stop everyone with a backache to get access?


why should anyone with a backache be stopped from accessing marijuana?...it works great as a painkiller for backaches.


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10 Jul 2012, 3:38 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
Delphiki wrote:
If medical marijuana was made legal what would stop everyone with a backache to get access?
why should anyone with a backache be stopped from accessing marijuana?...it works great as a painkiller for backaches.
I meant if only medical marijuana was legal (but not completely legalized) that it wouldn't make much sense. People would make up reason just so they could have it. Of course that is a valid reason, but one that can be hard to have concrete evidence to back it up.


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10 Jul 2012, 4:15 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
why should anyone with a backache be stopped from accessing marijuana?...it works great as a painkiller for backaches.


So does hydropmorphone. But we don't go handing out prescriptions for that on demand. Which does rather suggest that medical arguments for or against legalization are rather futile, because at the end of the day, a determination about prescription drugs is a decision between a doctor, a patient and a pharmacist.

I am not persuaded that medicinal use of marijuana is particularly effective except in a fairly narrow set of circumstances. The psychotropic and immune system impacts are such that I would generally look to other therapies before considering marijuana for most patients of mine. I don't doubt its effectiveness, but I do question whether it is a best choice in most clinical cases.


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10 Jul 2012, 5:08 pm

Delphiki wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Delphiki wrote:
If medical marijuana was made legal what would stop everyone with a backache to get access?
why should anyone with a backache be stopped from accessing marijuana?...it works great as a painkiller for backaches.
I meant if only medical marijuana was legal (but not completely legalized) that it wouldn't make much sense. People would make up reason just so they could have it. Of course that is a valid reason, but one that can be hard to have concrete evidence to back it up.


Well I don't know if my back or head aches I assume I have a back or head ache...seems pretty self explanatory, and a fine reason to smoke, though I think even smoking for enjoyment is good.


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10 Jul 2012, 5:16 pm

Marijuana gets legalized: people keep smoking marijuana


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