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04 Oct 2012, 5:11 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJBW49afzg&feature=related[/youtube]Whats really shocking is the cops dont do anything.


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04 Oct 2012, 5:14 pm

And people wonder why Conservatives are against Sharia law being allowed in the US.



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04 Oct 2012, 5:24 pm

IT'S A RELIGION OF PEACE!
Say anything different and we'll stone you because, truly, Islam is the religion of peace. Long as you all convert to Islam.



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04 Oct 2012, 5:42 pm

What the [CENSORED] is wrong with the US police? Even the goody two shoes Danish police force would have been present throughout the entire event if it took place in Denmark...



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04 Oct 2012, 5:48 pm

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What the [CENSORED] is wrong with the US police? Even the goody two shoes Danish police force would have present throughout the entire event if it took place is Denmark...


But then, a few other police forces I can think of would have been likely to give them more stones to throw.



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04 Oct 2012, 5:49 pm

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But then, a few other police forces I can think of would have been likely to give them more stones to throw.


Including your own?

When's the next Norwegian election? FrP looks awfully convincing from where I sit.



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04 Oct 2012, 5:51 pm

GGPViper wrote:
What the [CENSORED] is wrong with the US police? Even the goody two shoes Danish police force would have present throughout the entire event if it took place in Denmark...

It's mainly just the Dearborn police who are like that. I think cops from the other cities would stand up against it. It's too bad some cities got so wrapped up in some sick "political correctness" that the cops can't or don't want to stand up for free speech and protect the people with opposing views.



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04 Oct 2012, 6:02 pm

Deth_V wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
What the [CENSORED] is wrong with the US police? Even the goody two shoes Danish police force would have present throughout the entire event if it took place in Denmark...

It's mainly just the Dearborn police who are like that. I think cops from the other cities would stand up against it. It's too bad some cities got so wrapped up in some sick "political correctness" that the cops can't or don't want to stand up for free speech and protect the people with opposing views.


I would have loved to see that go down in Florida, or any concealed or open carry state.



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04 Oct 2012, 6:03 pm

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TM wrote:
But then, a few other police forces I can think of would have been likely to give them more stones to throw.


Including your own?

When's the next Norwegian election? FrP looks awfully convincing from where I sit.


Next election is 2013, but I'm not counting a victory yet. A right coalition is possible, but it could include the Christians and the Liberalers (roughly old school lib dem with a socialist twist) which would kill the whole thing.



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04 Oct 2012, 6:07 pm

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Next election is 2013, but I'm not counting a victory yet. A right coalition is possible, but it could include the Christians and the Liberalers (roughly old school lib dem with a socialist twist) which would kill the whole thing.


Is there any way that Norway could reach out of the quagmire that it's in? The Venstre lot leave me feeling uneasy.

What are the Centre Party and Højre like?



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04 Oct 2012, 6:07 pm

You guys do know The United West is considered a hate group in America, right? And I am pretty sure they are white supremacists. And its leader thinks Obama is a Muslim, his dad a sexual deviant, etc.? This appears to be one of those stories only distributed on right-wing sites.

I like how Tequila can go off saying the EDL and BNP are bad with their "special" treatment of Muslims, but this is OK. I guess because he doesn't know them enough (or rather he doesn't care)?

I mean, sure, it is bad to throw stones, but when you go to start trouble like the Westboro Baptist Church, that is what you get. Everyone else wants this to happen to the WBC and laugh about it when does, so why are you guys mad now? This is what really happened here.

Anyone want to call me a collaborator for fact-checking this? This seems to be the 'in thing' for people here when someone even remotely does this.



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04 Oct 2012, 6:10 pm

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And its leader thinks Obama is a Muslim.


Under Islamic law, the son of a Muslim is also a Muslim.



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04 Oct 2012, 6:12 pm

iBlockhead wrote:

I mean, sure, it is bad to throw stones, but when you go to start trouble like the Westboro Baptist Church, that is what you get. Everyone else wants this to happen to the WBC and laugh about it when does, so why are you guys mad now? This is what really happened here.

Anyone want to call me a collaborator for fact-checking this? This seems to be the 'in thing' for people here when someone even remotely does this.


I'd still like to point out that last time I checked, most people tell their children not to respond to verbal taunts with violence. However, as this has now been cleared up I shall feel free to fling a brick at someone's head the next time they provoke me.



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04 Oct 2012, 6:20 pm

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I like how Tequila can go off saying the EDL and BNP are bad with their "special" treatment of Muslims, but this is OK.


The BNP leadership are a***holes. You'll get no disagreement from me on that. I'm not sure that can be ascribed to all of their voters though. I'm not making excuses for them but, especially in the past, there was no-one raising the kind of issues that the BNP really were. Discussion of the more negative impact of Pakistani Muslim immigration into the UK was considered completely verboten. Can't talk about it. Anyone who does so is a racist and a bigot and a Nazi sympathiser.

That has changed. These days, there is a definite awareness that multiculturalism has gone badly wrong (as it has across Western and Northern Europe) but it's all about how to integrate people into the greater whole, as it were. The likes of the BNP are out of the picture on this - a lot of BNP voters themselves realise that we can't ship them back now. They're British citizens, and therefore have all the rights that we have. Many of them were born here.

A lot of the EDL are a***holes too, although I'd be lying if I didn't say that a lot of white/non-Muslim people didn't have some sympathy with some of what the EDL claim to stand for - i.e. being against Islamic extremism. Islam is the only real religious group I can think of in England that has any real problem with undesirable behaviour. It used to be the Catholic Church, but in Britain and Ireland that church has undergone an enormous decline.

My point is simple - not all or even most Muslims are terrorists or terrorist sympathisers. But a sizeable minority are, as shown in opinion poll after opinion poll. And Islam has some very nasty opinions on women, gays and non-Muslims which are no doubt reinforced by communal and cultural conditioning in England as well. If you grow up Pakistani Muslim in a very Muslim area of England and you end up being taught in Islamic schools and go to Salafist mosques, you're bound to end up with opinions that are markedly different from the general norm in wider British society.

At no point have I ever expressed support for the BNP or the EDL.



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04 Oct 2012, 6:21 pm

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However, as this has now been cleared up I shall feel free to fling a brick at someone's head the next time they provoke me.


(sticks motorcycle helmet on)

You horrible Norwegian bastard!

(flings brick)



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04 Oct 2012, 6:21 pm

TM wrote:
iBlockhead wrote:

I mean, sure, it is bad to throw stones, but when you go to start trouble like the Westboro Baptist Church, that is what you get. Everyone else wants this to happen to the WBC and laugh about it when does, so why are you guys mad now? This is what really happened here.

Anyone want to call me a collaborator for fact-checking this? This seems to be the 'in thing' for people here when someone even remotely does this.


I'd still like to point out that last time I checked, most people tell their children not to respond to verbal taunts with violence. However, as this has now been cleared up I shall feel free to fling a brick at someone's head the next time they provoke me.


Verbal taunts does not justify an attempt to murder someone. I'm going to side with WBC on this, they are actually behaving with more maturity (which isn't saying much).

They haven't resorted to physical violence, the Muslims in this case resorted to arguably deadly force when they were not being physically threatened.

If the Muslims had responded in a mature manner by ignoring WBC members, then I'd be mocking WBC; however they responded with violence (they could have killed someone quite literally), so I'm going to say it was the Muslims that were in the wrong.