Why ignore these facts about Obama's birth certificate?

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1. Back in 1961 people of colour were called 'Negroes.' So how can the recently produced Obama 'birth certificate state he is 'African-American' when the term wasn't even used at that time?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as 4 August 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and was born in " Kenya , East Africa ". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. So, how could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Until Kenya was formed on 12 Dec 1963, it was known as the " British East Africa Protectorate"

3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani
Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. So, how can the new 1978 name of the merged hospitals be on a birth certificate that is dated 1961? Unless, of course, the certificate was only recently made by some poor researcher as a cover up.

http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-chil ... fault.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya

Find me a country, any country, that doesn't have violence or slavery or gender inequality in its past. Maybe you didn't intend it this way, but I'm tired of hearing this sort of thing talked about as though it were purely an American problem...

... America, not unlike other parliamentary democracies, is a secular country.

Question tugging at the back of my mind: what was the intent of the OP in the first place?

I don't want to think the worst about the posters intentions... but it's sort of hard not to.

I apologize then...

To ask a question he thought would get an interesting and/or informed response? That's basically the only reason I can think of for asking a question in PPR. To get an answer.


How is it hard not to speculate about other people's intentions?

It isn't hard to. Unless the OP was playing Devil's advocate (which he had never suggested or implied that he was), I have to think the whole point of the thread has a racial motivation.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Naw, I just thought it was funny

Unless the OP was playing Devil's advocate (which he had never suggested or implied that he was), I have to think the whole point of the thread has a racial motivation.

1. Back in 1961 people of colour were called 'Negroes.' So how can the recently produced Obama 'birth certificate state he is 'African-American' when the term wasn't even used at that time?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as 4 August 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and was born in " Kenya , East Africa ". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. So, how could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Until Kenya was formed on 12 Dec 1963, it was known as the " British East Africa Protectorate"

3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani
Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. So, how can the new 1978 name of the merged hospitals be on a birth certificate that is dated 1961? Unless, of course, the certificate was only recently made by some poor researcher as a cover up.

http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya

There is such a thing as racial motivations, but the only reason I can think of to assume a racial motivation here is just because Obama is black. There are plenty of other reasons to dislike Obama. The big one for me is that he signed ACTA. If McCain had won and then signed ACTA, I'd dislike him too. If Hillary had won and then signed ACTA, I'd dislike her too.

Disliking Obama isn't racist, disliking Obama for being black is. If the only thing you know about someone is that they dislike Obama, that doesn't tell you anything about whether they're racist or not.

(And, BTW, I didn't catch that the OP was joking either.)

Who cares even if his certificate is fake its too late because his terms almost over anyway. Either way though I doubt hell make another election.

but this whole birth certificate nonsense is obviously racially motivated.