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13 Oct 2012, 5:48 pm

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You live in Europe though, Tequila. American Conservatism split off from European Conservatism a long time ago. While there are similarities there are also stark differences.

I'm sorry, I'm not having you tell me that there isn't a huge strain of authoritarianism in much of American conservatism. What about social and religious conservatives that are so dominant in America - the anti-gay crowd?

I understand that you tend towards libertarianism (as do I, although mine is a milder and different strain) but you're talking complete nonsense.

conservatives like to pretend that they're anti-authoritarian because they oppose things like limits on pollution and are against gun control, but really they want to 'get the government out of our lives and into our pants,' as Roy Zimmerman put it. They just want to control different aspects of our lives than liberals do.

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13 Oct 2012, 6:14 pm

This is a pretty thought provoking essay about history and the left/right and this strange thing called National Bolshevism. I hope some of you may read it if you have the time or the inclination to read about Hegel and his connection to that part of the National Socialists who were murdered at the Night of the Long Knives. http://arctogaia.com/public/eng-teor.htm

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13 Oct 2012, 7:10 pm

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The so-called Conservatives are as Statist as the Democrat pinko stinko commie loving liberals.

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13 Oct 2012, 7:16 pm

LKL wrote:

Tequila wrote:

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You live in Europe though, Tequila. American Conservatism split off from European Conservatism a long time ago. While there are similarities there are also stark differences.

Actually the case can be turned right back on you guys that the authoritarianism is coming from the pro-gay marriage groups, not Conservatives. The Chick'fil'a situation is case and point, complete with bomb threats, left wing politicans abusing their power, and at least one shooting.

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13 Oct 2012, 7:26 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

LKL wrote:

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You live in Europe though, Tequila. American Conservatism split off from European Conservatism a long time ago. While there are similarities there are also stark differences.

Yeah, the time honored tradition of a free people in a free market choosing to abstain, boycott and protest a company because they find their practices or beliefs to be distasteful has now been turned on its head to become a Stalinist boogeyman. You really do not want freedom at all.

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13 Oct 2012, 7:33 pm

DancingDanny wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

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Tequila wrote:

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You live in Europe though, Tequila. American Conservatism split off from European Conservatism a long time ago. While there are similarities there are also stark differences.

Well more people disagreed with you and the left wing politicians' intimidation tactics and decided to have a buycott (the opposite of a boycott), another time honored tradition.

Liberals couldn't stand the fact that people disagreed with them and so the phoned in bomb threats, and one liberal tried to go on a shooting spree in Washington DC.

Peaceful counterprotest where people decided to buy a sandwich vs. bomb threats and at least 1 shooting spree.

Looks to me that the liberals/pro-homosexual marriage groups were acting like the authoritarians; not the Conservatives.

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13 Oct 2012, 7:39 pm

Really? Do you really want to get into a tally of one guy getting f****d up over this protest to try to kill someone compared to the number of cruel murders that have been done to the LGBT community in the name of the peace loving conservative power hierarchy and God? Oh, I bet you have some piece of psuedohistory you memorized from headlines to tell me how Matthew Shepard was murdered by Democrats. :roll: Insufferable.

A bullet just went through the window of an Obama office in Ohio. I guess that was liberals letting Obama that he better tow the line or else. :roll:

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13 Oct 2012, 7:44 pm

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Really? Do you really want to get into a tally of one guy getting f**** up over this protest to try to kill someone compared to the number of cruel murders that have been done to the LGBT community in the name of the peace loving conservative power hierarchy and God? Oh, I bet you have some piece of psuedohistory you memorized from headlines to tell me how Matthew Shepard was murdered by Democrats. :roll:

Insufferable.

A bullet just went through the window of an Obama office in Ohio. I guess that was liberals letting Obama that he better tow the line or else. :roll:

What murders? Seriously, if those kinds of murders were going on they'd be all over the evening news...

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13 Oct 2012, 8:10 pm

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Insufferable.

A bullet just went through the window of an Obama office in Ohio. I guess that was liberals letting Obama that he better tow the line or else. :roll:

What murders? Seriously, if those kinds of murders were going on they'd be all over the evening news...

I think I get you. You literally have no historical awareness unless if you learned it on the news. :roll:

Matthew Shepard...Harvey Milk..ring a bell? Come on, they made MOVIES about these guys getting waxed. They are just the most publicized cases but there are undoubtably HUNDREDS of similar stories. For crying out loud.

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13 Oct 2012, 8:36 pm

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Insufferable.

A bullet just went through the window of an Obama office in Ohio. I guess that was liberals letting Obama that he better tow the line or else. :roll:

What murders? Seriously, if those kinds of murders were going on they'd be all over the evening news...

I think I get you. You literally have no historical awareness unless if you learned it on the news. :roll:

Okay I had to look this up, you're referring to something that happened in 1998 in the case of Matthew Shepard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Sheppard

The political ideology of his murderers are not identified, looks more like his murderers which just plain sadistic.

In the case of Harvey Milk, you do realize that he was assassinated in 1978...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Milk

Also in case you weren't aware of this, his assassin Dan White was a Democrat.

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13 Oct 2012, 8:49 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

DancingDanny wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

DancingDanny wrote:

Insufferable.

A bullet just went through the window of an Obama office in Ohio. I guess that was liberals letting Obama that he better tow the line or else. :roll:

What murders? Seriously, if those kinds of murders were going on they'd be all over the evening news...

I think I get you. You literally have no historical awareness unless if you learned it on the news. :roll:

You can prove anything with facts can't ya?

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13 Oct 2012, 8:57 pm

TM wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

DancingDanny wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

DancingDanny wrote:

Insufferable.

A bullet just went through the window of an Obama office in Ohio. I guess that was liberals letting Obama that he better tow the line or else. :roll:

What murders? Seriously, if those kinds of murders were going on they'd be all over the evening news...

I think I get you. You literally have no historical awareness unless if you learned it on the news. :roll:

You can prove anything with facts can't ya?

A f*****g wall. I'm arguing with a f*****g wall. Clearly because that case happened 14 years ago the meaning of it means less than your guy. Do you really live like this or are you just purposefully being obtuse?

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13 Oct 2012, 9:38 pm

DancingDanny wrote:

TM wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

DancingDanny wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

DancingDanny wrote:

Insufferable.

A bullet just went through the window of an Obama office in Ohio. I guess that was liberals letting Obama that he better tow the line or else. :roll:

What murders? Seriously, if those kinds of murders were going on they'd be all over the evening news...

I think I get you. You literally have no historical awareness unless if you learned it on the news. :roll:

You can prove anything with facts can't ya?

A f***ing wall. I'm arguing with a f***ing wall. Clearly because that case happened 14 years ago the meaning of it means less than your guy. Do you really live like this or are you just purposefully being obtuse?

You can't show a political motivation behind the assailants in both your examples, in fact the second example would indicate the assassin may have more in common with liberals.

The shooting in DC was clearly politically motivated, and that was a left winger trying to kill a bunch of Conservatives.

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13 Oct 2012, 9:52 pm

Because you haven't been informed of everything about the murders. Look at the cases, what they did was hate and where their hate is coming from probably nobody can really understand perfectly but since I'm a betting man I would put my life on it that liberalism is not the source of lynchings and murders of homosexuals as homosexuals. And since we're locked in a dialectical struggle for supremacy of who is the greater Stalinist/boogeyman/authoritarian/etc. that doesn't really leave alot of room to point to, does it?

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14 Oct 2012, 3:41 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y[/youtube] :lol:

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14 Oct 2012, 3:15 pm

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y[/youtube] :lol:

YES hahaha words of wisdom.

-You no longer go to the car wash since these threads leave your mouth foaming badly enough to get the job done

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-You think the Government is powerless to abolish the black market of drugs yet the only reason gun control doesn't work is because the Government isn't trying hard enough
-"Freedom" is a glittering generality while the "Greater good" is a common interest whether or not people agree with it

The "greater good" is a common interest for some people but there are always those for whom it is not a common interest. So guaranteeing freedom protects those who don't fit in and don't have much in common with the majority. The "common good" is actually the interests of the Status Quo.

Cool story.

And what makes it even cooler is that it's true.

People are selfish and self-interested, and the only time that a true "common good" exists is when there is a crisis that affects everyone, like an external enemy. If you want people to cooperate, you need to convince them that society values them and wishes to include them. The reasons I do not support the good of the whole is that I see myself as someone who is marginalized and excluded by mainstream society. So you tell me WHAT I have to gain by sacrificing for the "collective good" of a bunch of other people who don't give a f*ck abou tme?!?

Fair enough. But the point I was making was that both terms are glittering generalities and to call one out but not the other is a double standard.

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