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14 Oct 2012, 3:43 pm

DISCLAIMER: While it is true that counterpunch dot org is a biased news site, this story clearly tells the truth about the situation in Russia.


Read all about it here The Russian communists need to court the Russian military(ground forces specifically) as most Russian soldiers are frustrated with low pay and they come from poor families; unlike the bourgeois mafiosi who currently run the country. Capitalism in Russia must be STOPPED and communism restored. Russia is crying out for a new Stalin. The only solution to Russia's endemic mob problem is to round up Russian gangsters and execute them on the spot. Rule of law cannot stop organized crime, only a Stalinist style purge will. Putin has foolishly made Russia a member of the Council of Europe which promotes corrupt bourgeois values like "rule of law" and a unilateral opposition to capital punishment(even for murderous mafiosi, neo-nazis, and terrorists) and incarceration/re-education of criminals(the GULAG).

Russia's 2 greatest problems are as follows:

The Bratsva(Russian mafia)
The Russian Orthodox Church

Putin has made the criminal mistakes of allowing homeschooling, parochial schooling, and allowing one of the world's most vile religious institutions to regroup and control society.


A MILITARY COUP MAY BE NECESSARY TO OVERTHROW THE JESUSIST MAFIA REGIME AND RESTORE SOCIALISM TO THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE





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14 Oct 2012, 3:50 pm

Good. The Russians deserve another Stalin, complete with terror in the night and the gulags.

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14 Oct 2012, 3:50 pm

If anything, Russia's next 'political change' is going to be towards National Socialism.

The Russian nazi party has something like 50 000 member



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14 Oct 2012, 3:53 pm

thomas81 wrote:
If anything, Russia's next 'political change' is going to be towards National Socialism.

The Russian nazi party has something like 50 000 member


Hitler and Stalin were soul-mates. Forget the political agit-prop. Underneath they were the same kind of monster.

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14 Oct 2012, 3:53 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Good. The Russians deserve another Stalin, complete with terror in the night and the gulags.

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Hardly, they're not that stupid to back another foam mouthed demagogue like that.

Socialism in the tradition of Hugo Chavez and François Hollande seems to be the only palatable sort these days. Like i said though, in the case of Russia I don't see that happening. Left wing politics is seen as authoritarian and something to rebel against. There is a huge amount of Racism in Russia at the moment.



14 Oct 2012, 3:53 pm

thomas81 wrote:
If anything, Russia's next 'political change' is going to be towards National Socialism.

The Russian nazi party has something like 50 000 member


Which is exactly why communists need to seize victory and massacre Russian nazi party members! I am very excited by the prospect of restarting the cold war. 8)


Also, while there certainly are plenty of right wing extremists in Russia ATM, they have no access to military power and I do blame Putin for not executing them by the thousands. Stupid Gorbachev allowed the fascist 'Pamyat' party to flourish in the 80s during his failed glasnost y perestroika program.



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14 Oct 2012, 3:54 pm

AspieRogue wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
If anything, Russia's next 'political change' is going to be towards National Socialism.

The Russian nazi party has something like 50 000 member


Which is exactly why communists need to seize victory and massacre Russian nazi party members! I am very excited by the prospect of restarting the cold war. 8)


are you daft or are you joking?

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14 Oct 2012, 3:56 pm

ruveyn wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
If anything, Russia's next 'political change' is going to be towards National Socialism.

The Russian nazi party has something like 50 000 member


Hitler and Stalin were soul-mates. Forget the political agit-prop. Underneath they were the same kind of monster.

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I don't agree. The similarity was they were both atheist mass murderers who had moustaches. Politically the similarities were completely arbitrary.

They had entirely different political raison d'être's and allegiances.



14 Oct 2012, 3:57 pm

ruveyn wrote:
AspieRogue wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
If anything, Russia's next 'political change' is going to be towards National Socialism.

The Russian nazi party has something like 50 000 member


Which is exactly why communists need to seize victory and massacre Russian nazi party members! I am very excited by the prospect of restarting the cold war. 8)


are you daft or are you joking?

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I am neither. The threat of nuclear destruction during the cold war made things quite exciting. Communism is poised to make a comeback as capitalism spirals out of control here in the US and the western world.



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14 Oct 2012, 3:58 pm

thomas81 wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
If anything, Russia's next 'political change' is going to be towards National Socialism.

The Russian nazi party has something like 50 000 member


Hitler and Stalin were soul-mates. Forget the political agit-prop. Underneath they were the same kind of monster.

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I don't agree. The similarity was they were both atheist mass murderers who had moustaches. Politically the similarities were completely arbitrary.

They had entirely different political raison d'être's and allegiances.


What Stalin did to the kulaks is comparable to what Hitler did to the Jews.

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14 Oct 2012, 3:59 pm

ruveyn wrote:


What Stalin did to the kulaks is comparable to what Hitler did to the Jews.

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Wrong again. The Kulaks were an economic social class, not an ethnicity.

While Stalin was a mass murderer he can't be accused of pro active ethnic cleansing.



14 Oct 2012, 4:01 pm

thomas81 wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
If anything, Russia's next 'political change' is going to be towards National Socialism.

The Russian nazi party has something like 50 000 member


Hitler and Stalin were soul-mates. Forget the political agit-prop. Underneath they were the same kind of monster.

ruveyn


I don't agree. The similarity was they were both atheist mass murderers who had moustaches. Politically the similarities were completely arbitrary.

They had entirely different political raison d'être's and allegiances.



BULLSH*T


They were extremely different men with radically different backgrounds. Hitler was most certainly mentally deranged during the last 10 years of his life, Stalin was not. Also, Hitler was not an atheist!! ! He alludes very openly to his Christian beliefs in Mein Kampf. Hitler believed that he was doing God's work and his goal was a Christian Reich much like the Holy Roman Empire but even more powerful and with global hegemony.



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14 Oct 2012, 4:02 pm

AspieRogue wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
AspieRogue wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
If anything, Russia's next 'political change' is going to be towards National Socialism.

The Russian nazi party has something like 50 000 member


Which is exactly why communists need to seize victory and massacre Russian nazi party members! I am very excited by the prospect of restarting the cold war. 8)


are you daft or are you joking?

ruveyn


I am neither. The threat of nuclear destruction during the cold war made things quite exciting. Communism is poised to make a comeback as capitalism spirals out of control here in the US and the western world.


Difficult to see. I see the next world conflict being a dispute between Sharia Islam allied with pro market Russia and China against Western Liberalism.



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14 Oct 2012, 4:02 pm

thomas81 wrote:
ruveyn wrote:


What Stalin did to the kulaks is comparable to what Hitler did to the Jews.

ruveyn


Wrong again. The Kulaks were an economic class, not an ethnicity.

While Stalin was a mass murderer he can't be accused of pro active ethnic cleansing.


Stalin brutally lead to the death of seven million kulaks. The crime is the same. The political motivations vary. It was economic class-i-cide rather than genecide. In either case the victims are just as dead. Targetting an entire population -including women and children-, people who have done no wrong for death and killing them because of a classification rather than a specific wrong is monstrous.

ruveyn



14 Oct 2012, 4:03 pm

thomas81 wrote:
AspieRogue wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
AspieRogue wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
If anything, Russia's next 'political change' is going to be towards National Socialism.

The Russian nazi party has something like 50 000 member


Which is exactly why communists need to seize victory and massacre Russian nazi party members! I am very excited by the prospect of restarting the cold war. 8)


are you daft or are you joking?

ruveyn


I am neither. The threat of nuclear destruction during the cold war made things quite exciting. Communism is poised to make a comeback as capitalism spirals out of control here in the US and the western world.


Difficult to see. I see the next world conflict being a dispute between Sharia Islam allied with pro market Russia and China against Western Liberalism.



And you think that nuclear weapons will play no role?



14 Oct 2012, 4:04 pm

ruveyn wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
ruveyn wrote:


What Stalin did to the kulaks is comparable to what Hitler did to the Jews.

ruveyn


Wrong again. The Kulaks were an economic class, not an ethnicity.

While Stalin was a mass murderer he can't be accused of pro active ethnic cleansing.


Stalin brutally lead to the death of seven million kulaks. The crime is the same. The political motivations vary. It was economic class-i-cide rather than genecide. In either case the victims are just as dead. Targetting an entire population -including women and children-, people who have done no wrong for death and killing them because of a classification rather than a specific wrong is monstrous.

ruveyn





Do you think that extrajudicial execution of mafiosi, terrorists, and neo-nazis is wrong? I for one do not.