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14 Dec 2006, 4:33 pm

What do you think the implication regarding evolution in a world that is generally at peace? In past, a powerful nation, one that is healthy and strong, will conquer one that is weak and poor.

The result would have been that poverty stricken; unhealthy nations would have been wiped out and replaced with the healthier conquering nation. Now that there is not any holocaust to wipe out weak nations, they are just left to decay even further.



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14 Dec 2006, 4:52 pm

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What do you think the implication regarding evolution in a world that is generally at peace? In past, a powerful nation, one that is healthy and strong, will conquer one that is weak and poor.

The result would have been that poverty stricken; unhealthy nations would have been wiped out and replaced with the healthier conquering nation. Now that there is not any holocaust to wipe out weak nations, they are just left to decay even further.


I'm not sure if I totally agree with your assertion that the world is generally at peace, but even if we, for the sake of argument, assume it is, then that is only a transitory state. Why should it not be? Haven't nations engaged in war ever since humanity constructed them? If all the doom and gloom about climate change is true, then an ever increasing world population will be competing for dwindling resources.

Things are the same as they always were.



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14 Dec 2006, 5:48 pm

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What do you think the implication regarding evolution in a world that is generally at peace? In past, a powerful nation, one that is healthy and strong, will conquer one that is weak and poor.

The result would have been that poverty stricken; unhealthy nations would have been wiped out and replaced with the healthier conquering nation. Now that there is not any holocaust to wipe out weak nations, they are just left to decay even further.


I think there is a good argument that the nature of modern society and the relative comforts of modern life are giving rise to dysgenics. In the past, the cleverest and the fittest people would have passed more of their genes on than people who were less clever or less fit. In the modern world, high IQ people tend to have less children, and at a more advanced age, than low IQ people.

Whether or not modern life (in the West) will remain comfortable for many years to come is another matter.



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14 Dec 2006, 5:53 pm

I believe in equality and balance. I believe individuality will be best to accomplish this (in other words, no more 'following' the herd).

Basically, Vulcans



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14 Dec 2006, 8:17 pm

I think nothing of it. People breed, idiots still kill themselves in some form or fashion and intelligent people still marry intelligent people.



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15 Dec 2006, 2:27 am

The near future is going to be one where there are more poor single perent families

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... 2&start=60

Compared with the 18 century and before this world is very peaceful, do you know any friends or family that has died because of a war. I am sure that not even 2 percent of the world wide population will never die directly because of a war.



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15 Dec 2006, 5:26 am

Aspie_Chav wrote:
What do you think the implication regarding evolution in a world that is generally at peace? In past, a powerful nation, one that is healthy and strong, will conquer one that is weak and poor.

The result would have been that poverty stricken; unhealthy nations would have been wiped out and replaced with the healthier conquering nation. Now that there is not any holocaust to wipe out weak nations, they are just left to decay even further.


Well, Iraq wasn't left to decay any further under Saddam's isolated regime, right? So I guess you can't say the world is entirely at peace because there are still wars going on and there probably always will be.



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16 Dec 2006, 3:07 pm

Psychlone wrote:
Aspie_Chav wrote:
What do you think the implication regarding evolution in a world that is generally at peace? In past, a powerful nation, one that is healthy and strong, will conquer one that is weak and poor.

The result would have been that poverty stricken; unhealthy nations would have been wiped out and replaced with the healthier conquering nation. Now that there is not any holocaust to wipe out weak nations, they are just left to decay even further.


Well, Iraq wasn't left to decay any further under Saddam's isolated regime, right? So I guess you can't say the world is entirely at peace because there are still wars going on and there probably always will be.



Boy, I am talking about the majority of the world. Small pockets of war don’t have world wide implication compared to a world fighting each other like they did in past: virtually every country used to push its own borders.



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16 Dec 2006, 8:37 pm

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What do you think the implication regarding evolution in a world that is generally at peace? In past, a powerful nation, one that is healthy and strong, will conquer one that is weak and poor.

The result would have been that poverty stricken; unhealthy nations would have been wiped out and replaced with the healthier conquering nation. Now that there is not any holocaust to wipe out weak nations, they are just left to decay even further.


Without war, the impoverished nations cannot lose to the less nations, and therefore, the most impoverished nations remain the most impoverished.

That's an interesting idea, Aspie_Chav. 8)



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17 Dec 2006, 7:46 pm

If stupidity kills evolution then it's likely that eventually we'll have another world war, an "armageddon", and the world will become a blood bath.... Right now the individual camps are veying for power over one another. Most notably in america is the socio-political camps (conservative and liberal). But even then, there are many other ones, it can be a race, religion, ideology, creed, sexual orientation, gender, any number of things that people use to divide themselves. But, it's all coming to a head eventually. I think at this point modern governments are going to fall into shambles and the world will become seriously chaotic, while the streets may become lawless, the alphas will be trying to take over...... This, is the NWO, and it's coming, maybe even in our lifetime.