Poll about Legalized Prostitution

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I honestly think some men are, but that's informed by my personal experience - plus the fact that the black market in sex trafficking is booming in Amsterdam.

Merely disapproving of another person's activity does not make that person "ill-of-mind."

No, I honestly do think someone is emotionally messed-up if they pay for sex. It speaks volumes about their attitude to themselves and to other people.

In my opinion, your body is an aspect of yourself integral to your personhood. If you see bodies as something to be bought and sold, then I think something is wrong with you. I realise that my opinion isn't the mainstream one, and people tell me I'm the one who's messed-up and unhealthy, but I don't care. I believe in what I think is right.

How is any less unreasonable to buy sex? Is it any more reasonable pretending you want a relationship with someone? That is, if your so lucky for that person is even interested in you. If it is reasonable for somebody to offer this service, why is it unreasonable to take up their offer?

Well, you can cut the end of post off I guess and just say my response is just that 'I disagree' I guess. You're reasoning for it being different is that sex workers(correct me if I'm wrong) face certain hazards in their job and my response to that was that there are plenty of hazardous normal jobs as well. That's without saying my belief that the reason it is so hazardous is the result of it being illegal.

Really its not a debate worth having tho if you side for legalization, it just doesn't make a sense given your views.

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Not necessarily. Coitus can be very therapeutic. Being able to pay for coitus may help ease one emotionally.


Volumes? To me, it says nothing. What does it say to you?


Yes.


Not bought and sold--only rented.


As long as you think that you are fine and healthy, then that is all that really matters.

@Jacoby
I think the potential for psychological injury from being a sex worker is as high as that for being a soldier who goes to war. I think both roles are perpetuated by patriarchy. I'm as critical of the military as I am of the sex industry.

That's why it's different to other jobs: I don't think it would exist if patriarchy didn't exist. Thinking of sex as something you can buy is a pathology created by patriarchy. The supply is simply created to meet the demand - wanting to make money is not pathological.

I support legalised and regulated prostitution because for practical reasons: we live under patriarchy and will for the forseeable future.

I don't understand how you can get off with a partner who's only doing it for the money. That thought would kill my libido instantly. If you actually prefer a partner that's only doing it for the money, that suggests you have problems with emotional intimacy so huge that even a one-night stand or a Craigslist hookup is too involved for you.



Same difference form where I'm sitting.

An orgasm is an orgasm.


Male and female plumbing systems are different.


Yep. Too much trouble, and potentially just as dangerous.

I get it, you don't care what your partner thinks of you, as long as you're being 'serviced'. This is why I am practically a lesbian.

I'm not sure I agree that sex workers face the same potential of psychological injury as a soldier at war. Maybe if they faced the same potential of maiming or death to themselves and their comrades while being away from home for years at a time.

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It is probably better not to dwell on it.

For who and why?

Prostitution predates the patriarchy and is the oldest profession known to humanity. It goes back as far as recorded history(almost 7000 years! ).


If you think that the West is a patriarchy, well, try living in a non-secular muslim country. They are the most fiercely patriarchal societies in the world were prostitution is strictly prohibited and punishable by death(to the hooker ). The first society to outlaw prostitution was ancient Israel.

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I'm not a believer in the ancient matriarchies. I believe patriarchy is at least as old as Homo sapiens.
Also, prostitution can't be the oldest profession. You would have to have food or goods to exchange for it, which would mean something like hunting or gathering would be the oldest professions.

Matriarchies DO exist. Even in modern times. They are simply rare and most of them are tribal. One very strange thing about them is that they are often found in very cold climates. An example of a matriarchal society in the modern age is the Sakha of Eastern Siberia.(better know as Yakuts). Hunting wasn't a profession in prehistoric times, it was something done for survival. Prostitution is by far the oldest profession since a profession is where you do something in exchange for something you need. What is your evidence that patriarchy is as old as Homo Sapiens Sapiens?

The difference in size and strength between the sexes seems to be evident in early humans. The only mammal where this doesn't seem to lead to male dominance I know of, is bonobos. Also, the sheer overwhelming number of patriarchies on the planet suggests to me that the system has some origin in human biology (which doesn't mean it ought not to be challenged). I'm always sceptical when someone claims that some society or other is 'matriarchal' but I will look up the group you gave as an example.

I think humans are much closer to chimpanzees than bonobos