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pawelk1986
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23 Oct 2012, 3:06 am

What do you think about him.

He was a great leader but very few people in the world know about him.



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23 Oct 2012, 7:20 am

pawelk1986 wrote:
very few people in the world know about him.


Myself included.

Can you tell us why you like him?



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23 Oct 2012, 8:51 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
very few people in the world know about him.


Myself included.

Can you tell us why you like him?


Or even tell us who the heck he was!



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23 Oct 2012, 10:01 am

He was rather cute

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had a moustache and wore colourful outfits.

Was he gay?



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23 Oct 2012, 10:52 am

If he were alive to hear you say that he would kick your ass!

Kicking ass was his forte.

Just goggled him.

He was a great military leader. Won many victories- most famously for defeating the Turks at the battle of Vienna.

Because of that victory the Diet elected him king.

His reign was probably the apex of a great era of Polish history.
Basically the last quarter of the 1600's he reigned when the Poles and the Lithuanians had a kinda partnership country called the "commonwealth". Togther the Poles and the Lithuanians ruled a huge portion of northeastern europe. And under him they defended the realm from all comers: the turks, the Swedes, etc.

His official title was "King of Poland, and Grand Duke of Lithuania".

So, whats NOT to like?
He was a pretty major figure.

After his time Poland apparently went downhill.

They had inept diplomats who alienated all of Poland's nieghbors.

So the neighbors ganged up on them in the late 1700's. Finnally (around the time America was first put on the map as a nation) Poland was erased from map by being partitioned between Russia, Prussia, and Austria.



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23 Oct 2012, 11:39 am

naturalplastic wrote:
If he were alive to hear you say that he would kick your ass!

Kicking ass was his forte.


Is that a "yes?"



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23 Oct 2012, 11:51 am

Its a no!

No to thinking that his fashion sense was a clue to his sexual orientation.

Men typically dressed that way back then.

But who knows what his orientation really was.

He mightve been part of that five percent of the population or not, but the odds are 19/20 that he wasnt.



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23 Oct 2012, 12:30 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
If he were alive to hear you say that he would kick your ass!

Kicking ass was his forte.

Just goggled him.

He was a great military leader. Won many victories- most famously for defeating the Turks at the battle of Vienna.

Because of that victory the Diet elected him king.

His reign was probably the apex of a great era of Polish history.
Basically the last quarter of the 1600's he reigned when the Poles and the Lithuanians had a kinda partnership country called the "commonwealth". Togther the Poles and the Lithuanians ruled a huge portion of northeastern europe. And under him they defended the realm from all comers: the turks, the Swedes, etc.

His official title was "King of Poland, and Grand Duke of Lithuania".

So, whats NOT to like?
He was a pretty major figure.

After his time Poland apparently went downhill.

They had inept diplomats who alienated all of Poland's nieghbors.

So the neighbors ganged up on them in the late 1700's. Finnally (around the time America was first put on the map as a nation) Poland was erased from map by being partitioned between Russia, Prussia, and Austria.



Admit I am a Pole and I am proud of King Sobieski.

He saved europe, stopped the expansion of the Ottoman empire.

Yesterday I was in a movie about the Battle of Vienna.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1899285/

I like historical films :-)



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23 Oct 2012, 7:08 pm

pawelk1986 wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
If he were alive to hear you say that he would kick your ass!

Kicking ass was his forte.

Just goggled him.

He was a great military leader. Won many victories- most famously for defeating the Turks at the battle of Vienna.

Because of that victory the Diet elected him king.

His reign was probably the apex of a great era of Polish history.
Basically the last quarter of the 1600's he reigned when the Poles and the Lithuanians had a kinda partnership country called the "commonwealth". Togther the Poles and the Lithuanians ruled a huge portion of northeastern europe. And under him they defended the realm from all comers: the turks, the Swedes, etc.

His official title was "King of Poland, and Grand Duke of Lithuania".

So, whats NOT to like?
He was a pretty major figure.

After his time Poland apparently went downhill.

They had inept diplomats who alienated all of Poland's nieghbors.

So the neighbors ganged up on them in the late 1700's. Finnally (around the time America was first put on the map as a nation) Poland was erased from map by being partitioned between Russia, Prussia, and Austria.



Admit I am a Pole and I am proud of King Sobieski.

He saved europe, stopped the expansion of the Ottoman empire.

Yesterday I was in a movie about the Battle of Vienna.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1899285/

I like historical films :-)


Robert E. Howard (best known for creating Conan) had written a story about the battle of Vienna called The Shadow Of The Vulture I had read years ago, though I can't recall if he had included Sobieski.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer