Should Religious Prostitution be Legal?
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I have visions of a pissed off Jesus kicking over the tables of the money-changers.
ruveyn
My favorite part of the Bible,but I also like the part where he refers to himself as a man gluttonish and a wine bibber.That's my kind of Jesus.He also states in Revelation that he will destroy them that destroy the earth,the first hippie I guess.He would love a Rainbow Family Gathering
Well, from our First Amendment
Pornography came to be regarded as a protected form of speech.
This seems that it would have made for an interesting First Amendment test, but the priestesses were sloppy about it and are broke. It takes a lot of money to present a case to the Supreme Court.
One previous Supreme Court decision that would have to be overcome: Reynolds v. United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_v._United_States
Before the Supreme Court, Reynolds argued that his conviction for bigamy should be overturned on four issues. These included that his grand jury had not been legal; that challenges of certain jurors were improperly overruled; that testimony by Amelia Jane Schofield was not permissible as it was under another indictment; and, most importantly, that it was his religious duty to marry multiple times....
The Mormons, believing that the law unconstitutionally deprived them of their First Amendment right to freely practice their religion, chose to ignore the Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act at the time. On the other hand, in subsequent years, efforts had been underway to strengthen the anti-bigamy laws. Eventually, amid the efforts to indict the LDS leadership for bigamy, the First Presidency agreed to furnish a defendant in a test case to be brought before the United States Supreme Court to determine the constitutionality of the anti-bigamy law. Reynolds, a secretary in the office of the President of the Church, agreed to serve as the defendant, then provided the attorney numerous witnesses who could testify of his being married to two wives, and was indicted for bigamy by a grand jury on October 23, 1874. In 1875, Reynolds was convicted and sentenced to two years hard labor in prison and a fine of five hundred dollars. In 1876 the Utah Territorial Supreme Court upheld the sentence....
Reynolds tried to instruct the jury that if the jury found he committed polygamy with the only intention of following his religion, then he must be found not guilty. However, the trial court refused this request and instructed the jury that if they found that Reynolds, under religious influence, "deliberately married a second time, having a first wife living, the want of consciousness of evil intent—the want of understanding on his part that he was committing crime—did not excuse him, but the law inexorably, in such cases, implies criminal intent...
The most important ruling of the case was over whether Reynolds could use a defense due to religious belief or duty. Reynolds had argued that as a Mormon, it was his religious duty as a male member of the church to practice polygamy if possible.
The Supreme Court recognized that under the First Amendment, the Congress cannot pass a law that prohibits the free exercise of religion. However it argued that the law prohibiting bigamy did not fall under this. The fact that a person could only be married to one person had existed since the times of King James I of England in English law, upon which United States law was based.
Although the constitution did not define religion, the Court investigated the history of religious freedom in the United States. In the ruling, the court quoted a letter from Thomas Jefferson in which he stated that there was a distinction between religious belief and action that flowed from religious belief. The former "lies solely between man and his God," therefore "the legislative powers of the government reach actions only, and not opinions." The court argued that if polygamy was allowed, someone might eventually argue that human sacrifice was a necessary part of their religion, and "to permit this would be to make the professed doctrines of religious belief superior to the law of the land, and in effect to permit every citizen to become a law unto himself." The Court believed the true spirit of the First Amendment was that Congress could not legislate against opinion, but could legislate against action....
If the Mormons couldn't get away with bigamy, then getting away with religious prostitution might be difficult. Does anyone see any loop-hole that the priestesses might exploit?
The Temple is not arguing their right to practice religious prostitution but rather the Temple is arguing that they have a right to collect donations. However the donations are not collected during the worship services but rather the donations are collected during the sexual acts which is why they are in trouble.
That's the lamest excuse I've ever heard. Other churches abuse their 501(c)3 status to tell people to vote Repugnican. The Phoenix Goddess Temple will have to pay taxes on offerings and fees collected, and without telling people how to vote. That is just stupid.
Wait so now having sex for money is a VIRTUE of a woman. Do make me laugh. Your are the anticrist to women. Go ahead and ban me again for speaking the truth.
I think that the point is that everyone commenting in this thread is agreed that this group IS practicing prostitution.
The group tries to present themselves as ministering to individuals and welcoming donations.
As long as we all agree that they are running an illegal brothel, we are agreeing that their practices are against local law.
As pointed out, there are places where prostitution is legal, and if they were there, they would not be in trouble.
They knew that when they set up shop.
Personally, what surprises me is that a man with more than one woman living with him, having a sexual relationship with both, is within the law.
If he married both of them, they would be breaking the law.
I believe it is about time that we considered allowing polygamy, for those who freely choose that path.
Sylkat
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